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Site Apps as response to browser bloat and lack of functionality

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-08 10:31

Face it, the criticism about "Apps" for every website would be far more relevant if Apps weren't much faster and resource efficient than browsers. Browser bloat fragmented the web, mobile devices turned to lightweight apps and secure app stores.
Another aspect is extensions/plugins being replaced by safer but more limited "WebExtensions" which are slower and less capable than site-specific apps.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-08 14:27

The issue is that every §§app’’ is a feature-limited homemade browser displaying the website itself.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-08 14:52

you can literally turn a web app into a ``native'' app using one of many different wrapper options

example:
https://electronjs.org/

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-08 15:01

I still cannot believe that there is a desktop text editor written in javascript

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-08 15:06

>>4
I bet in 10-20 years, we'll see unironic operating system projects written in JavaScript. Used seriously, not as a joke or toy project.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-09 7:58

>>5
So FrozenVoid was right?

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-09 8:14

>>5
That will not happen and you're retarded. Edited on 09/09/2018 08:15.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-09 8:59

>>7
Wanna bet? I am starting a new startup for a JS OS right now.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-09 9:45

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-09 11:09

take the black pill

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-09 11:16

>>6
Has Frozenvoid ever been wrong?

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 3:32

>>11
I can't compress movies to 1-byte.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 5:57

>>12
I don't think he compressed anything outside of some speculative theory.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 6:16

>>11-13
What are we talking about here? I only know of {spoiler void.h}.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 6:49

>>14
FrozenAnus believes that it's possible to have an infinitely good compression, ignoring basic math things like pigeonhole principle

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 7:36

URL minifiers are infinite compression in practice.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 10:31

>>16
no their're are not

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 11:02

>>17
For all practical applications, they are.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 11:09

>>18
it's as much of a 'compression' as a pointer is

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 11:50

>>19
pointers can point to remote servers? 🤔

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 12:03

>>20
what does this have to do with anything you fucking retard anus? the pointer points to address, minified URLs also point to address. neither of them do anything with what's stored under said address and both need to store the address, so their're aren't compressing anything.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 12:05

infinitely compress and freeze my dubs

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 12:13

>>21
But they are compressing the data stored at the minified URL. Usually you would need the full url. But with minifiers, you just need the ID, which can be as short as a single character (depending on the scope of things you want to compress).

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 12:25

>>23
Ultimately, that's just moving the data to another location.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 12:39

>>23
no, they store the original data along with the minified data. and the original data is short anyway, it's not like they minify movies or system images - URLs are generally not even a kilobyte long. the point of compression is to store less, not to store the same thing but also provide a shorthand

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 13:07

>>25
You are being deliberately obtuse for the sake of technical correctness in face of real-life application. Reducing the presentable full URL to a shortened one is compression for any clientside code.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 13:13

>>26
no, I am explaining the difference given the context of what compression is used for. and what people use compression for is large sets of binary or textual data. URL ahortener is not an equivalent of compressing a 4K movie so that it doesn't clog your're are disk, it's an equivalent of storing this film on a remote server and writing down the URL. example.com/gay-niggers-from-outer-space.avi is not compression.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 13:17

>>27
example.com/gay-niggersTsk.-from-outer-space.avi is not compression.
Technically you are correct. But for all practical purposes, you are using a 0.2KiB identifier instead of the 4GiB film. This achieves exactly the same goal as compression.
If you are still unconvinced, think of it like this: The compression algorithm is a mapping from the minified ID to the full resource. If we have a finite amount of resources, we can put the mappings in the compression algorithm definition. Then the algorithm is simply switching on the ID and returning the corresponding resource.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 13:19

>>28
that's not solving the problem, that's moving it somewhere else. either you need to have those gigabytes or someone else has to, and the thing about relying on someone else is that... well, it's not that reliable.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 13:24

>>28
Tsk.
Nigger.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 14:50

I buried a shipping container in a field and drew a map to it. Now I can fit a shipping container in my pocket!

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 15:08

>>31
BRAAAAAAP

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 19:02

>>31
Unearthing the container is not a trivial task. GETting an URL is (in any nontoy language).

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-10 21:46

>>33
Downloading huge files isn't always trivial either.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-11 3:08

i boycott crApps by refusing to use them and by trolling the support staff .

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-11 7:43

>>34
How so? It's a one-liner that requires almost zero CPU power so it can be safely done in a background thread.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-11 12:05

>>36
Until you run out of storage. To follow the analogy, you can't just shove a shipping container into your garage.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-11 12:32

>>37
You should have told me that we are talking about your 2007 SSD with 8GiB capacity.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-11 12:49

>>38
Do shipping containers normally fit in pockets?

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-11 12:49

>>39
Not without compression. How is this a relevant question?

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-11 12:58

>>40
Because I ``should have told'' you. I'm illustrating that I did.

Name: Anonymous 2018-09-11 18:58

Fuk of please

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