WoW Classic and fondness for old code

Apparently people still play World of Warcraft, even in the year of our lord 2018. They've added lots of new content, updated interfaces, and changed a lot of the code in order to fix bugs and security issues. So even though it's been around for a while, it's not exactly the same anymore. Such is the case with any software, really, especially if it's network-connected, such as with an MMORPG client like WoW.

If they are really reverting to the old version of the game, do you think there will be the same security bugs and game cheats that used to be in it back in the day (that they fixed with new expansions and patches)? Because if so, it means people are going to hack and cheat a lot when it gets released.

But on a similar topic, what's up with people preferring older versions of software? I saw someone on Twitter getting nostalgic about old GUI design and Windows XP shit, of all things. Is it really that people think old stuff is better, or is there a psychological explanation for why people prefer things they remember from the past? Rose-tinted glasses? Or do you think there are legitimate reasons to like older software more and dislike new stuff?

I think that, for some reason, the people on this board tend to like older stuff more. You're anti-JS, anti-modern web, anti-mobile, and anti-cloud. You also seem to prefer languages like C and Lisp over newer stuff like Swift, Kotlin, or Python. But why? Is it really that everything new sucks, or are you just clinging to your generation? And let's not forget how so much stuff from the past really sucked, but you selectively remember things and just block out memories of software being terrible in the past, and only remember the good stuff.

What do you think about people who are change-averse as opposed to embracing new things? And which category do you fall under, and why?

>>1
People get used to stuff. When companies start changing its takes time to adapt and the gulf between expected features and actual features grows with each new version.
Imagine version X of software that you're productive with, you know all the tricks and bugs, read the entire manual. Why would you upgrade without definite advantages?

>>2

Why would you upgrade without definite advantages?

Technology changes all the time. If a product doesn't adapt, it is becoming obsolete. You're not going to win new customers with an outdated product. Ideally, a company should still try to appease their existing customers while adapting to current industry trends in order to keep on getting a stream of new customers, but it's easier said than done.

Think of it from a product manager's perspective: if you don't add new things or update the UX to be more modern and compete with other similar apps/websites/programs, why would someone start using it over the competition? So then all you get are the boomers who have been using it for a long time, but no fresh blood.

>>3

Technology changes all the time.
I'm still writing plain C on a x86, using GNU/Emacs

>>4
Just because you're a modern day neanderthal doesn't mean everyone else is.

>>5
If modern day fad is shitting your pants, then better being a cave man.

They are using the new engine for wow classic
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/21881587/dev-watercooler-world-of-warcraft-classic Edited on 25/11/2018 16:36.

They are using the new engine for wow classic
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/21881587/dev-watercooler-world-of-warcraft-classic

Memory is immutable and therefore the new directly opposes the old. Which is unfamiliar, this leads to fear, hate is a by-product.

Human memory, affords itself.

>>8

Memory is immutable

not if you drink alcohol or have alzheimer's disease

>>1

But on a similar topic, what's up with people preferring older versions of software? I saw someone on Twitter getting nostalgic about old GUI design and Windows XP shit, of all things.

because modern microsoft fucked up their're are UI design with that stupid ribbon shit. I got used to it, but it's not intuitive.

I think that, for some reason, the people on this board tend to like older stuff more. You're anti-JS, anti-modern web, anti-mobile, and anti-cloud. You also seem to prefer languages like C and Lisp over newer stuff like Swift, Kotlin, or Python. But why? Is it really that everything new sucks, or are you just clinging to your generation?

abuse of JS makes websites load longer and use more resources (an old laptop with 2GB of RAM is choking up on many modern sites) and its proponents keep reinventing the wheel badly, modern web is a shithole of tracking advertising and intrusive social media tied to your're are real identity (which makes controlling privacy-related stuff much harder), mobile shit has all the same problems as the web while also being a walled garden that by default only allows you to install vendor-approved shit and cloud makes all of the above even more closed, opaque and complex. I'm not saying that there are no advantages, but remember what are the costs.

as for languages, I like C and Lisp but I don't mind the modern ones you described. I actually use FIOC a lot, and I even programmed some stuff in Hy (a Lisp derivative which writes Python ASTs), but nowadays it's still a bit too unstable (as in 'shit still breaks between compiler versions') for production use. what I actually dislike is JS everywhere shit