I just want a productive modern language with fast binaries and little retardation.
Why do they always come in and spoil the fun by introducting some uber complicated security system.
Now even D has lifetimes and a stupid safe/unsafe distinction.
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Anonymous2020-07-31 14:26
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Anonymous2020-07-31 18:08
All securityfaggots are albanians. FUCK albania. Fucking shit fuck country full of goat fuckers and rats.
security is based, literally weaponized autism in a computer form. classic buffer overflows exploited the fact that code and data are the same in memory and rewritten programs from the inside, and when they made it impossible to modify code the securityfags invented ROP and managed to use bits and pieces of existing code to make their exploits anyway. I dunno, there's something cool about all that.
lifetimes and overcomplicated shit are annoying, but this is not solely the fault of securityfags, the blame lies on sepplesfags who tried to make insecure language into a secure one by bolting on overcomplicated features, because that's how seeplesfags solve every problem. then rustfags decided to make an entire language out of that, and now people think that this is the way to do security.
Btw Cppniles are gods and the only people getting shit done.
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Cudder!cXCudderUE2020-08-03 5:02
Stay with C89.
"Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither."
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Anonymous2020-08-03 10:09
``Security'' in this sense is typically championed by people who regard /prague/ramming as a spreadsheet exercise, a game of fantasy football if you will. ``Using a pointer-safe language like Java gives me +35% to resist hax!''
Meanwhile the competent programmer does not regard the art an act of random chance.
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Anonymous2020-08-04 7:32
>>6 the point is that there is no 'the way' to do security. garbage-collected languages are one way, but at the cost of performance. overcomplicated languages like Rust are another, but at the cost of programming time and effort. and this is just for memory safety, which is not all there is to security. no amount of memory safety will save you from command injections, or from sending shit in plaintext.
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Anonymous2020-08-04 17:02
>>11 Agreed. Thought you were a lisp weenie and was prepared to post the danluu latency link.
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Anonymous2020-08-04 19:30
Do not make the mistake of conflating security and safety. Brain Kerbal gives no shits about GC and undefined behaviour.
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Astolfo2020-08-06 14:19
They should have made their own language.
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Anonymous2020-08-07 1:22
>>11 "Just" memory safety is a pretty big win. Memory safety is still by far the biggest category of security flaws in unmanaged languages. Imagine if memory was no longer a concern and programmers could worry about other bugs.
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Anonymous2020-08-07 17:15
Tried Go? Also LOL @ mozilla """security"""
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Anonymous2020-08-08 11:14
>>15 Thank God Wordpress was written in a memory safe language, otherwise it would have a ton of security holes.
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Anonymous2020-08-08 11:16
>>16 Too slow for interesting stuff. Also not really productive and definetly not modern.
It's more like, imagine if they'd written WordPress in C, how much more there'd be to worry about
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Anonymous2020-08-08 13:32
>>19 I have written Symta runtime in C. Most software is written in C upto the level when higher level language becomes available. C is a fine language.