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Do you really want an asshat in the White House?

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-23 4:57

The failures of a Trump presidency would be historic. Think of all the embarrassments and failures of Jimmy Carter or George W. Bush amplified x100. This is a man who, unlike Bush, cannot string together a coherent thought, has zero experience in government, has a clinical, untreated case of narcissism, and has relatively little education (c.f., Bush, Clinton, Obama all Ivy educated). It's not just a prediction that he will destroy all of America's hard fought global alliances--it's a campaign promise. He is both pseudo-intellectualism and mindless populism personified. He appeals to the most simian primitive emotions and instincts not because of some intricate strategy, but because he himself does not possess any faculties above that. It's not a coincidence that thinkers on every side of the political spectrum have disavowed Trump. His own party disowned him. To his remaining supporters, the average joes, their rallying cries are still deafening in the face of what should be crises of their allegiance. Their former political heroes be damned, principles be damned, facts be damned--his supporters finally have a candidate that thinks like them and is one of them, a stupid person. On some level I want him to win, if only to witness the Mondale-tier blowout in 2020 and one more knockout blow to the fascism meme.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-23 6:51

Yes, more than anything. Trump is awesome.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-23 13:28

populism is democracy, dolt

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-23 20:23

I enjoy to see nations committing self-destructive acts because of their intellectually poor and easily manipulable population votes for the most stupid choice available, so my answer is: iff most Americans want an asshat in the White House then I strongly believe America deserves an asshat in the White House. You see, people have to understand that the only way to have a good government is to have a smart population, but the problem is nobody cares about good education in America... maybe a few would like to have things like free college so they can get some bullshit degree and then a higher paying job just to satiate their consumerist impulses, but nobody is asking to improve the terrible education level of American schools, and this is because those parents who care probably had a good education, have good jobs and can afford the tuition of some elitist institution for their kids, and those who don't are probably stupid, have horrible jobs and couldn't pay for it even if they wanted. The order is there, and will probably stay like this for a long time because this society is too individualist to give a shit.

My personal fantasy is to think that if America chose the most absurdly stupid candidate ever (e.g. Trump), after four years of chaos and worldwide humiliation they will finally realize how fool they are. But that's naive: what would actually happen is that one group will blame the other and say "I didn't vote for him/her", and the other group would blame whatever scapegoat is introduced by the president and his/her staff.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-23 22:37

This is the period of Roman history where leadership in the senate is failing due to infighting, and we are awaiting a grand usurper to rise and fix things to their natural order. This time the empire will not just cover Europe, but the entire world. Ave Caesar!

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-24 4:18

>>5
If it's anything like what happened at that time in Roman history it'll be a while before the country even regains order.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-24 11:56

>>1
Shalom!

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-29 15:34

Trump is the only one who could fight the pervasive corruption in Washington, protect Americans from illegal immigration and fight islamic terrorism. Of course, the majority of voters are poor and easily manipulable, hence they will vote for the asshat just because she happens to be a woman.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-29 15:54

Let's go through your post point-by-point.

Think of all the embarrassments and failures of Jimmy Carter or George W. Bush amplified x100
That's not a bad thing, most people like it when they can laugh at presidents.

a man who, unlike Bush, cannot string together a coherent thought
He talks just fine, and is much more intelligent than Bush.

has zero experience in government
Which means that he's not corrupt like all the establishment. This is why they hate him. He wants to introduce term limits for politicians and fight lobbying.

has a clinical, untreated case of narcissism
Just like America as a nation. He is a fitting leader of the nation, if anything.

has relatively little education
Real-world education means more than book smartness.

he will destroy all of America's hard fought global alliances
You didn't really fight for your alliances. You just paid the money. Your alliances are all bought and no one will stand by you when you stop being rich.

He is both pseudo-intellectualism and mindless populism personified
Pseudo-intellectualism is a precise description of Obama who was president for 8 years. He always says smart honeyed words and pretends to be so know-it-all, but he never achieved anything good. Even his Nobel Prize was phony. As for mindless populism, it's better than intelligent pro-establishment policies that hurt the people.

He appeals to the most simian primitive emotions and instincts
If not wanting being blown up by Muslims or being unemployed because of illegal immigrants is a "simian primitive emotion", then you are spot-on.

thinkers on every side of the political spectrum have disavowed Trump
They're either paid to lie (like the "experts" on Brexit were) or ignorant ivory-tower Gutmensch.

His own party disowned him.
Only the corrupt establishment part. Trump brought in more voters for the Republican party than ever in history, but the career politicians couldn't care less about what ordinary voters need.

principles be damned, facts be damned
You must be talking about the "free" press which is almost uniformly showing it's bought and paid for to spread lies and discredit the people's candidate. Meanwhile they also spread bullshit like "global warming" and "discriminated minorities" while suppressing reports about immigrant crime. Donald is the one with the better grasp on facts.

On some level I want him to win
So on some level you love your own country? Don't worry, the fatcats will conspire to find a way to prevent a pro-people candidate from taking office. Oh and all the government's agents have been arming themselves to the teeth under Obama, so the "fascism meme" will be back alright, just not under Trump.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-29 17:55

Trump is full of hot air. He'll probably be indifferent about everything, which is a good thing for those who think the government is already too invasive.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-29 19:10

>>4
intellectually poor
hurr durr americans are dumb

America is 35% shitskin. This is the only reason it seems "dumb." Americans with German and English ancestry are just as intelligent as English and Germans because intelligence is defined by one's genetics.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-29 20:01

>>8
protect Americans from illegal immigration
I do not personally consider illegal immigration to be a high priority.

fight islamic terrorism.
His foreign policy seems to be basically "stop funding terrorists" and "restrict Islamic immigration", neither of which is going to do much to destroy groups like ISIS. Trump's attitude towards ISIS seems to basically be "ignore it and it will go away", but really the only way to defeat them is to take the war to them. We've already seen ISIS attacks on our soil, that means ISIS is winning and we're on the defensive. We're not winning until ISIS is being attacked on their own soil and THEY'RE the ones that are fearing for their lives, not us. Restricting Islamic immigration will make it harder for ISIS to carry out attacks, however by itself it will not stop attacks completely, and will likely end up hurting the victims of ISIS more than ISIS. It certainly won't actually present an existential threat to ISIS, like fighting them in their own territories will. Complete destruction of ISIS is really the only acceptable option at this point - they're far more extreme even than Al-Qaeda, and have basically zero chance of being reformed into something acceptable.

hence they will vote for the asshat just because she happens to be a woman.
Most Hillary supporters aren't voting for Hillary because she's a woman, but because she's not Trump.

>>9
Which means that he's not corrupt like all the establishment.
Justin Bieber has zero experience in government too, but I don't see anyone saying he would make a good president.

He wants to introduce term limits for politicians and fight lobbying.
Term limits are a bad idea, most politicians are mediocre if not outright evil, and so would end up getting voted out after one term anyway. Term limits only hurt the good politicians, by making sure they can't stay in office long enough to accomplish anything. I do agree that we should fight lobbying though.

As for mindless populism, it's better than intelligent pro-establishment policies that hurt the people.
Populism hurts the people too, specifically those who aren't in the majority. You know the saying "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch."? That's basically what populism is.

If not wanting being blown up by Muslims or being unemployed because of illegal immigrants is a "simian primitive emotion", then you are spot-on.
It is, because you're focusing on spectacle rather than statistics. Being killed by an asteroid is about as likely as being killed by Islamic terrorism.

They're either paid to lie (like the "experts" on Brexit were) or ignorant ivory-tower Gutmensch.
This is an excellent demostration for the collective delusion held by Trump and his supporters. They're unable to comprehend that anyone could disagree with them without being a paid shill or having a poor understanding of reality.

Meanwhile they also spread bullshit like "global warming" and "discriminated minorities"
Both of those things objectively exist. They may be somewhat exaggerated by the media, but the media makes its money by attracting an audience, not by being 100% objective. Saying that because the media exaggerates these things, they must be 100% false, is equivalent to arguing that since there is no evidence of lampshades being made from the skin of dead Jews, the Holocaust must not have happened.

while suppressing reports about immigrant crime.
The media is understandably reluctant to make a big deal out of it, because it is clearly a touchy subject. The alt-right tabloids are however fully willing to fill in those blanks in the mainstream media report.

Donald is the one with the better grasp on facts.
Are you kidding? He struggles to make factual statements about himself, never mind the outside world.

So on some level you love your own country?
Another classic strategy of the Trump alt-right propaganda machine: claim that anyone who disagrees with you is unamerican. This of course goes back to McCarthyism and the Red Scare, and completely ignores that Trump himself is opposed to freedom of speech, one of the most fundamental American values.

Oh and all the government's agents have been arming themselves to the teeth under Obama, so the "fascism meme" will be back alright, just not under Trump.
Fascism is not just "the government having power" (which is the whole point of government, a government without power is utterly useless). Fascism refers specifically to totalitarian nationalism.

>>11
Genetics are only a small part of "intelligence". Let a German or English person who's spent their whole life living in the woods take an IQ test, and see if they can manage to even get 100. If intelligence really was innate, why even bother with school? And its schools where America is really behind compared to other developed countries. Genetics really only gives you potential, if you don't do anything to take advantage of that potential, you might as well not have that potential in the first place.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-29 22:32

>>8
protect Americans from illegal immigration
What is wrong with illegal immigration? Capitalists need cheap labor, so they have the right to hire smart illegals, instead of fat and stupid american citizens.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 13:47

>>11
Intelligence is not defined by genetics. Genetics set the limits, that's all. Whether intelligence will develop fully depends on the environment and life events.
Thus, even White Americans with German and English ancestry are dumb as hell because they're living in overly comfortable, non-demanding climate-controlled conditions.

>>13
The key word is "Capitalists" here.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 13:56

>>12
Your post is so full of bad points and non-arguments that I don't want to waste too much time with you. I'll just pick three, okay?

Justin Bieber has zero experience in government too, but I don't see anyone saying he would make a good president.
Justin Bieber has little experience running multi-billion businesses, so why would you even mention him? Besides, Nicaragua has recently elected a TV comedian as president, so your argument is null even on that count.

They're unable to comprehend that anyone could disagree with them without being a paid shill
But the Brexit "Project Fear" has proven that they were paid shills for the status quo. Before that, all the "experts" said that if Britain doesn't join the Euro, meteors would rain from the sky. You seem to be too dense to comprehend that the modern Western media and the "elite" are driven by money and corruption.

It is, because you're focusing on spectacle rather than statistics.
The statistics say that the White race is rapidly becoming a minority in its own lands, and there are virtually no homogenously White countries left while the vast majority of non-White countries stay homogenous and free from mass immigration. Those are the real statistics that no liars in the Western media dare focus on.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 14:07

>>12
Most Hillary supporters aren't voting for Hillary because she's a woman
No, most Hillary supporters are women, and are probably voting for her because she is a woman. Men, on the other hand, would vote Trump in the office any day.

Donald Trump would be president if women couldn’t vote

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-would-be-president-if-women-couldnt-vote-2016-10-12

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 19:23

>>15
Justin Bieber has little experience running multi-billion businesses, so why would you even mention him?
What does running multi-billion businesses have to do with anything?

Besides, Nicaragua has recently elected a TV comedian as president, so your argument is null even on that count.
And would you consider Nicaragua a good place to live at this point in time?

But the Brexit "Project Fear" has proven that they were paid shills for the status quo.
Proofs?

Before that, all the "experts" said that if Britain doesn't join the Euro, meteors would rain from the sky.
Proofs?

The statistics say that the White race is rapidly becoming a minority in its own lands
I was referring to the talk about being "blown up by Muslims". Long-term demographic change is not the same as getting blown up, and people are understandably less prone to getting worked up about it.

>>16
No, most Hillary supporters are women, and are probably voting for her because she is a woman
No, more likely they're voting for her because she isn't Trump. Trump is far more "anti-woman" than Hillary is "pro-woman".

Donald Trump would be president if women couldn’t vote
Kind of a pointless argument, because if women couldn't vote, having a woman running for president would be considered outright absurd. Even after women were allowed to vote, it was like 10 years before the first female politician, and another 80 years after that for the first serious female candidate for president.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 19:24

>>13
Illegal immigration is against the law, just like capitalism should be.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 19:41

>>18
Yes, let's stifle all innovation and efficiency, dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 20:32

>>19
We should focus on raising the lowest common denominator, rather than letting a tiny minority become billionaires off the blood of the starving worker.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 21:05

>>11
Americans with German and English ancestry are just as intelligent as English and Germans because intelligence is defined by one's genetics.

Intelligence is genetics but genetics isn't solely race. The English and Germans who fled their home countries for America probably weren't the brightest bulbs. It stands to reason that the smart ones would have had established businesses or professions that they couldn't/wouldn't just up and leave.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 21:07

If Donald Trump were black, he would be Kanye West. None of you would be defending him. """Alt-right""" is identity politics for young white males.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 21:29

>>20
How to you plan to do that? Because the current commie infested educational system seems to value indoctrination over free thought.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 22:46

>>23
Yeah, and? I'd like to see you make a billion in a world full of free-thinkers, asshole!

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-30 23:24

>>24
Make a billion what, assholes?

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-31 0:25

>>25
No.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-31 5:34

If trump wins I will kill you. At this moment I still maintain hope that not everything about life is worthless garbage so I refrain, but a Trump presidency would snuff the fire from that belief.

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-31 11:57

>>27
Suck it global elitist scum!

Name: Anonymous 2016-10-31 12:58

>>28
Trump is elitist, dolt.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-02 7:49

Let's make MAGA great again!

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-04 1:47

>>30
MAGA America Great Again

is the name of a cutting-edge GNU project which is a fork of cowsay but with Donald Trump instead of a cow

it is 40000 LOC

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-04 8:45

The Democrats should've abandoned Hillary long ago and gone with Bernie or Biden. But they know that the only way they could win is by getting the woman votes, so they had to keep the Crooked Hillary.

>>22
You say that like it's a bad thing. Why shouldn't a young white man vote for whoever represents white men the best?

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-04 9:40

>>32
The Democrats should've abandoned Hillary long ago and gone with Bernie or Biden
Biden the corrupt pedo? Bernie the hypocritical geriatric? Both of those are fine choices.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-04 13:56

>>33
2016. When Crooked Hillary is actually the best candidate the Democrat Party can offer.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-04 17:34

>>33
Bernie is just 3 years older than Shillary. And how is he being hypocritical? if anything his pseudo-support for Shillary is only because of his pragmatism and understanding of our bureaucratic system.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-04 18:20

>>35
It's not pseudo-support, he was a toy duck all the time. That's why the DNC was thinking about ways to discredit him, they understood that Hillary was the real deal and Bernie just decorations.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-04 19:57

Meanwhile, Erdogan is quickly turning into the modern-time Hitler with American nukes at his disposal while the stupid Westerners blame Putin for everything. God, these dolts like Obama and Merkel are incapable of seeing anything in front of their noses. Erdogan makes thousands-strong "purges", then his ambassador says "it's okay, nothing is happening" and the Westerners believe. Hitler used to land-grab under the silent approval of Britain and France for years, too. Meanwhile, dumb-ass leftists blame Trump for everything while it is Obama cooperating with the inhumane regimes like Turkey or Saudi Arabia.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-05 1:45

>>37
Dumb-ass right wingers believe interfering with Turkey or Saudi Arabia is any of our business. It's 2016 not 2001, get over it.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-05 8:19

>>35
pseudo-support
He's out on the campaign trail telling people to vote for her. Also, latest wikileaks prove that he made an agreement to not attack Clinton during the primary. Obviously he was just in it for the shekels, not the failed socialism he professed to support.

Name: Anonymous 2016-11-05 14:57

>>38
Dumbasses on either wing that believe having non-Muslim troops in any Muslim territory is a good idea need to get the boot because it doesn't fucking matter what year it is.

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