I've held on to Win98 for years, and always loved it. I've added everything possible such as Kernal-Ex, to keep it going, and struggled to cope with incompatible software that requires newer versions of Windows, particularly browsers.
The time has come to retire Win98, and allow Microsoft to win their efforts to obsolete the older versions of Windows. But Microsoft really is NOT going to win. In fact in my case, THEY LOSE. From the moment I first put my hands on XP, I hated their so called NT based OSs. I tried, really tried to adapt to XP, and always hated it no matter how hard I forced myself to use it. By that time they had created their worst failure, Vista, and were on their way to more bloated OSs, which I would not touch if they gave me a free computer. Just seeing a Windows 8 computer on the shelves at a store makes me nauseous. All I see on those screens are ugly boxes with links to commercial companies I would not even go near, such as Netflix. They cant even offer decent looking icons anymore.
Years ago, I knew thart the time would come when I could no longer use Win98. It appears this time has come. Mainly due to the fact that there is no longer a browser that is made for W98 that is compatible with most present websites. I coped with occasional websites which would not properly load in past years, but it now seems that 4 out of 5 sites are no longer loading properly, using Firefox 3.6.x, and worse using other browsers that work on W98. Of course I place blame on Mozilla for not making their newer versions of Firefox compatible with W98.
The PC computer was originally supposed to be *THE* hardware for any OS, but Microsoft took over and made the PC the Microsoft Computer. Their only competitor is Linux, and there is really no competition involved, since Linux has no actual support, and there are so many different variations of Linux that only a computer geek can begin to use it, and even then, it wont run popular software intended for Windows witout adding yet more software.
The bottom line is this. Either kiss Microsoft's ass, or toss your PC in the nearest garbage can. Well, I have given this considerable thought, and decided that I will never give Microsoft another cent. Particularly when I hate every OS they have made since Win98. I can still continue to use WIN98 for my personal uses, but in order to go on the internet, I have decided to spend some money and buy a Macintosh computer. I never thought that I'd make that switch, and being elderly, I really hate having to relearn to use a completely different computer system, yet, there really is no other option.
I say this with much sadness, because I really liked Win98, and still do. It's the only decent OS made by Microsoft, and they did their best to destroy it. I guess 2014 will be the year when all of my past 25+ years of PC computer learning and use goes down the shitter, and I switch to Macintosh. In some ways, I wish I had begun my computer learning with the Mac, because I would not have to start all over now. But that's life, particularly when Misrosoft greed is involved, and they create one of the wealthiest monopolies on earth, while creating absolute shit.
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Anonymous2014-05-11 5:07
nice kopipe but you forget that windows 2000 home edition does not use the nt kernel and the part that talks about GNU/Linux is made to cause flames
so I was right, it is a kopipe but why are you calling me a /g/ro? I made a very respectful post that tried to increase the quality of the board (``windows 2000 home edition does not use the nt kernel''), so are you calling me a /g/ because I called what you called as ``linux'' as ``GNU/Linux''? there are many people who do this for many reasons and most of them are not from /g/ I agree with >>4 -kun for the rest
>>1 I can relate. You should try puppy linux or linux mint or something. They run well on older hardware and are relatively user friendly. If you want to run a windows program, there's WINE, which has come a long way. A lot of things just work, but not everything.
Peter and Sally were exploring the alien caverns when there was a sound from behind them. A green monster stood and while towering over them bellowed, "I am Legy!" Peter and Sally ran and Legy gave pursuit. After running through the dark tunnels, they found a hole to crawl through that Legy couldn't fit though. They left the angered Legy and continued running until they couldn't hear his screams of disappointment. Peter and Sally walked on. "There's no other exits," Peter said. "This tunnel goes straight and never ends," Sally responded, "When will we get out of here?" Suddenly a large spider the size of a Volkswagen Beetle descended from the ceiling. Large fangs extended and eagerly spat two clumps of venom. It's legs reached out and encroached upon the paralyzed Peter and Sally. Peter shouted, ``back to le gee''
A sincere warning to the OP: Apple obsoletes their old operating systems at least twice as fast than Microsoft does. I don't feel like writing out all the details to you but you can look them up.
(I used to be an Apple user for several years.)
They changed architectures twice since 1994. Motorola 68k, then PowerPC, then x86. By contrast, Microsoft has stayed on x86 since the beginning.
Another example: the OS X version from 2001, 10.1, became obsolete (read: incompatible with latest browsers) years before XP (which also came out in 2001) did. In fact, XP is still compatible with latest browsers, at least the latest Firefox. For example, the latest browser that Mac OS X 10.3, which came out in 2003, two years after XP, can run, was released in 2009. And the latest Firefox it can run is 2.0.20. That's right. It came out in 2003 and the latest Firefox version it can run is *less* than the latest Firefox version Win98 can run. (Source: http://lowendmac.com/osx/panther-10.3/)
There are countless other examples; as I said, you can research this if you like.
In a nutshell, Apple is all about planned obsolescence. This should be familiar to anyone who has dealt with e.g. iOS versions.
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Anonymous2014-05-11 13:33
became obsolete (read: incompatible with latest browsers)
Yes, that's one specific definition of obsolete which I find useful, since web browsing is a very popular computing task nowadays. But please feel free to make your own definitons of ``obsolete'' as well. I'm just trying to make the point that Apple is full of planned obsolescence.
>>19 Take your chromebook and go back to wherever you people come from.
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Anonymous2014-05-11 14:58
>>20 Consider this: A pack of wild Googlers. Savage, Glass-wearing Googlers nearing your noncloud home. Trampling your open source projects. Raping your privacy. And you can't do shit since Google owns the internet. The Googler leader grabs your wife and fucks her with his chromebook. The primal Googlers finally dominate your household. They watch barbaric shows on youtube and you are forced to provide data for Google analytics. Such is the downfall of Private Man.
I actually hate web apps and Chromebooks. But lots of stuff nowadays require web sites. For example my school's internal portal for reading mails from professors and submitting homeworks is web-based and full of javascript gunk.
And I also enjoy browsing websites. Reading newspapers or just about anything online also requires a fairly recent browser because of all the CSS and javascript bullshit.
A browser more than 2 or 3 years old misrenders everything on almost any site that wasn't designed with plain HTML simplicity in mind (which, sadly, means: most websites).
It's a PITA, it's awful, but it's the way it is. In a better world, the web would not have been such a monster.
And to elaborate, I don't use a chromebook. (or apple's planned obsolescene stuff). I use a plain old local windowed desktop environment setup, which is what people used before the whole chromebook/gnome3/unity/metro/tablets/whatever bullshit started around 2010 or 2011.
I use a plain old local windowed desktop environment setup
Whoa, that's somehow remarkable in the modern world? I wouldn't know the ways of windowed shit, I'm a tiler myself, but the fact that you mention it like that is somehow disturbing. Has everyone converted to inferior mobile shit and the corresponding inferior WMs?
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>>192014-05-11 15:34
>>24 No, but >>20-fu seemed to be implying I was a chromebook fanboy and I wanted to clarify.
Has everyone converted to inferior mobile shit and the corresponding inferior WMs?
I'm not sure but there's certainly been lots of marketing for it. Though I think most computer-minded types use the classical windowed (or tiling, as you mention) stuff.
speaking of which, I just read this amusingly disgusting blogspam:
The Windows desktop is now regarded by many people — even Microsoft themselves — as a relic that’s out-of-date in an age of simplified mobile interfaces and touch screens. But there was a time when the Windows desktop was the new, user-friendly interface.
>>34 Only inferiors use ``app''. They are programs and shall be referred to as such. Same with ``coding'' or ``coder'' instead of programming and programmer.
I'm starting to lose track of how many layers of trolling are occurring here.
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>>362014-05-11 19:13
Also, I'm just wondering: have you guys ever craved cock so badly that you found yourself running around outside, howling at the moon for it? Literally ROARING at the top of your lungs, wanting nothing less than a dick's head churning against your glottal stop?
I'm such a little girl! I'm only 10. Well actually, I'm close to 100, but that's how things work in Gensokyo for youkai. I enjoy doing statistics programming in R on the data I collect on spell cards and danmaku patterns. I hope to one day eat Reimu and destroy the Hakurei border. In the mean time, my favorite 2hu is Yuuka Kazami and I hate kikes for no real reason. I also like doing lewd things with Keine The Cow and Cirno.
>>42 Multitasking and full screen apps are not mutually exclusive. I can leave my e-mail app running in the background with a full screen web browser, and I can get notifications of new email while my web browser is full screen.
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Anonymous2014-05-12 1:37
>>42 Multitasking and full screen programs are not mutually exclusive. I can leave my e-mail program running in the background with a full screen web browser, and I can get notifications of new email while my web browser is full screen.
>>49-50 multiple tasking and whole screen executing instructions with single screen is not by requirement excluding one from the other, someone might leave their email executing instructions executing in background with whole screen web sighter and get notifications of new email while their web sighter is whole screen like with a beep but multiwindowing is sugoi
>>47 What's wrong with R? It's better than S and Fortran, and no other has as libraries as good for statistics. Except maybe MATLAB, but I've never used it for stat.
And besides, Yukari is still using Windows 98 for IE5 and the active desktop. The only thing she ever programmed was some shitty java applet game that was a ripoff of the Seihou project. And she is the closest thing there is to a real leader and at least pretends to be civilized, so imagine what the dumb fairies and wild youkai use!
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Anonymous2014-05-12 9:26
>>52 SAS probably has the best libraries, Matlab's stat package is fairly basic.
why lolis? enjoying getting redpilled? See the reality in the face and select me! I have read SICP~
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Anonymous2014-05-12 15:06
why whippersnappers? preferring annoying brats who are even less experienced than you? Go learn something for a change and select me! I have written TAOCP~
>>57 You only half as cute as a child and half as intelligent as an adult. You are the worst of both worlds.
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Anonymous2014-05-14 18:04
>>53 SAS has terrible syntax. It's like someone tried to mix the mediocre parts of C, Basic, and Python, then tried to add a dose of COBOL for good measure.
>>62 I didn't mean to imply that it was good, rather that it's more functionally complete. And yeah, the syntax is very old school, I'd say like a mix of fortran and cobol.