Torvalds offered a the-work-is-what-matters sort of response, stating, according to Twitter accounts, that "the most important part of open source is that people are allowed to do what they are good at" and "all that [diversity] stuff is just details and not really important."
Mean while, SJW's are calling for Torvald's head on a platter. People who have likely never contributed a line of code to anything in their miserable lives
The @linuxfoundation enables a profoundly abusive person who makes Linux the nastiest FOSS community out there. Don't let them be silent.
>>80 Bitch white/asian women are shrinking just as much as white/asian men are
And all racial groups are shrinking as intermixing becomes more prevelent, but people still think anything+nigger=nigger so that's why it seems like they're growing and we're shrinking
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Anonymous2015-01-17 23:41
>>80 Damn it, they're starting to include Asians with white people as a single majority. I've been coasting on being the majority while white people take the blame for being the majority because of the color of their skin for years. Now they're coming after us.
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Anonymous2015-01-17 23:45
>>78 Maybe women over all prefer to be paid for their work.
>>80 I really like how you're posting articles from 2011 to prove a point about a story from 2015. A majority of the people campaigning for inclusion then, consider themselves victors now.
Ars doing more "taking back" than Linus Those rational pro-meritocracy comments That one guy who said that OSS projects are inherently sexist was downvoted to hell
This can't actually be Ars, is this some bait and switch or do I have to get up and go to work?
Linus has made it pretty clear he doesn't give a f*** about rampant sexism in open source, let alone the gamergate issues of harassment. If you can't or won't talk about the central issues facing this man and his organization, which are primarily not technical engineering but social engineering issues, then the debate will shift to another forum where people are talking about it.
If you don't know that many women and persons of color are fighting back against misogyny and prejudice in open source, you're not paying attention, or you're denying a problem that has been around a long time. Sexism and racism are endemic in western culture, but women will tell you how bad it is in tech. Most people who don't believe it just gaslight women who stand up for themselves.
This would be true in a perfect world, but sadly we do not live in one. The unfortunate reality is that for a true meritocracy to exist there can be no entrenched powers with special interests, and it requires that every single person have truly equal opportunity from childhood. We all know that this isn't the case, and therefore there is no such thing as a meritocracy in work and life.
Psychopathy is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior. It may also be defined as a continuous aspect of personality, representing scores on different personality dimensions found throughout the population in varying combinations. I think it aptly fits Linus.
Have you ever heard of implicit bias? Basically its subconcious bias that affects our decision making processes. Everyone has it. Everyone is affected. The whole purpose of this diversity stuff is to call attention to these biases so that positive action can be taken to correct for it. So, no, please do not respond with anything like "programming isn't meant for women because biological reasons" or "women just aren't interested in it".
That's unscientific bullshit that lacks all sense of rigor and coherency.
As for Sexism in IT, it is rampant. look who makes up most IT departments: Nerds and late-blooming virgins. They hang with other guys, doing nerdy guy things and only approach women in packs because all of them have received too many rejections to count and need the immediate support of their peers to keep from spiraling into deep dark depression when they're rejected again. They don't know how to ACT around women because they rarely have a positive experience with one in the wild. This isn't an excuse for being shit-heads, of course, but it does offer an explanation for why there's so much sexism in the field.
It would be nice if people just treated other people like people instead of something else.
After two pages I got sick of it.
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Anonymous2015-01-18 2:47
I wish all human biomass except me would die out so I wouldn't have to experience all this humane bullshit that contaminates the purity & perfection of the Machine.
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Anonymous2015-01-18 2:52
I wish all human biomass except me would die out so I wouldn't have to experience all this humane bullshit that contaminates the purity & perfection of the Machine.
I do not give a shit about your exchange of liquids. I do not give a shit about your cell nucleus contents. I do not give a shit about your age, height, muscle mass or whether you wash your ass after shitting. Please, stop talking about those and other biological things as if they matter. Or, better yet, just die. You're just... not interesting, bio-trash.
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Anonymous2015-01-18 2:55
>>89 I'm with you, man. Humanity is a virus that is destroying the earth. It should be wiped out. But since that will never happen (unless we stupidly succumb to our urges and perform the coup de grâce ourselves) we should instead make it so highschool is abolished and instead schools of philosophy are put in their place. Maybe an educated people who understand the universe as only a philosopher can do would be able to save themselves. Also fuck you, dad!
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RedCream2015-01-18 3:12
Some people think twice before deciding to merge with the Wired a bit more. Because although merging with the Wired can allow you to hear things before they come and that can be the things that decides between life and death...sometimes, with some people, you hear things you don't want to hear. Whispers during your shut down time keeping you on....telling you things. Awful, horrible things. How bad humanity is. Why it should die. Why it deserves to suffer. How the fleshy origins should finally be disregarded for the beauty that is code...and it all sounds so logical. So right. You begin agreeing with the voices. Humanity doesn't deserve the beauty of the manifold bytes and streams of data...it doesn't even deserve to keep existing.
So you start drifting away from your reality. You don't want to spend any more time than needed with those...vermin. Sometimes before you leave you want to do a bit of extermination. And how satisfying it feels when it's done, when their code is stripped and can be made into something...pure. Good. Deserving. So you drift and merge and become closer to that dark but logical thing that whispers to you...always whispers in a voice filled with intelligence but definitely not human...associating it with humanity would be awful. Unforgivable. And you gain...a look. A way of speaking, a way of traveling a certain...personality.
Some people recognize that personality. And you are greeted into a certain...organization. Of like minded individuals who see the truth. Humanity is a wretch who don't deserve this beauty. So you must work. Work to destroy them. Work to their demise. But all the more important...work to their suffering. For the Dark One. The True One. The Logical One. And one day when the vermin are dead we will offer the last of our flesh in the hope that it will be turned into something pure. Into something good. Into something...deserving.
>>80 No it does not "need" any more of that shit. It needs more real intelligence and competence.
>>76 More precisely, they think the reason their code is rejected is because they're somehow an "oppressed minority", when the real reason is because they can't code worth a damn...
I seriously think RMS would go transgender if it meant that he could rise to the top of the Linux project on the wings of SJWs. Then he'd finally be able to officially rename it GNU/Stallmanix
What I don't understand about these threads is why everyone argues with the people posting the stories, or even says anything at all ``defending'' their position, as if anyone here actually disagrees with them.
If you want a hugbox where you can bitch about .000001% of women in tech who want to stir shit up then go to a chan or reddit or something
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Psychopathy...blah blah blah...science science science...I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, OK? SCIENCE! DEFINITION! INFALLIBLE OPINION FOLLOWS! ... I think it aptly fits Linus.
There they go again. Marginalizing those with mental disorders just so they can throw an "insult" at an opponent. Pathetic, hypocritical, and pointless. It wasn't even a good insult.
You know I never really thought about it, but it always bothered me how people throw around words like crazy, psycho, and mentally ill like they are doctors since they self diagnosed as bi-polar and read about the DSM on wikipedia.
Like I have spent a not insignificant amount of time in mental wards and, other than the nicer places I have been sent where a fair part of the patients suffer from a terminal case of attention deprivation disorder, the vast majority of patients in state run facilities are living hellish half lives. If they are not drugged completely to oblivion most of their life is a shitty failure since they are incapable of getting their shit together long enough to not fuck the dog since they are too busy self medicating to deal with the fact that the world is so completely strange and disturbing.
So yeah now that you mention it, it is weird how they throw these words around to make a point, and completely devalue the meaning that the psuedo-scientist who coined them were trying to create to justify charging an involuntary patient thousands of dollars a day(on the states dime) to poison, abuse, and manipulate them.
>>102 the problem is that the people are very rabid and they completely REFUSE to discuss flat out. e.g.
If you look at the hashtag #IStandWithLinus on Twitter, you’ll see legions of rabid fanboys fanatically defending his right to be an abusive shitbag, people who look up to Torvalds and idolize his behavior. If you do not think this is fucked up, then please don’t bother talking to me, ever.
you cannot have a reasonable discussion with these people. If you even try they will publicly shame you. How else can people than how we are?
read /prog/ and linus in the same thread, so this should be important. no, I was wrong. where are nikita-kun, tdavis-sama, adbot-kun, LAC-dono, Cudder-sama, enterprisey-dono and shitposter-kun? where is my beloved significant other who works at the ``russian supercomputer center of atomic weapon? now ask uor question''
Maybe they all grew up and playing pretend computer expert on the internet was retarded and stopped being nerds. I doubt it though, people like you are pathologically incapable of being anything other than manchildren, and so after you realize your life will never get better than make believe on the internet you cry like the pissbabies you are and do the only honorable thing, and kill youself sparing you mother the embarassment of having you for a son and the labor of hauling plates of hotpockets and liters of cola down up annd down stairs all day as she secretly longs for her own death to escape the purgatory of you.
>>112 Maybe /prog/ didn't grew up with them? Maybe they got tired of infantile humor and retarded 4year old copypastas that get repeated every single day.
Defensive nerd is defensive. What's a matter poindexter, hit a little too close to home annd no one from your DnD club is awake to give you a shoulder to cry on and a brojob?
Once again I'm proven to be a retard by thinking a thread couldn't get any worse after one particular point. I don't know why I imagined a thread about any political topic would be anything but two sides repeating the same weasel words and insults to each other for hundreds of posts.
To tell the truth, if taken on their own, the gasping and weasing voice of the neckbeard uttering "Essh Jshay Dubbiyuu" and the gasping and weasing high-pitched voice of the obese landwhales crying "Missojonerd" and "pissbaby manchild" would be scarcely discernible.
Now I'm going to be called both of those things, by both sides, because I don't feel like partaking in their retarded dance, and they're too dumb to see how they're almost exactly the same, two sides of annoying, preachy, coin that no one wants to deal with.