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Moot steps down from 4chan LLC, a Gawker subsidiary

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 15:41

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 16:01

I figured the little shit would go out like a true /b/tard, either dead or in jail, probably as a lonely old man with nothing else.

But what could he possibly do now?

Name: del 2015-01-21 16:44

del

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 17:01

wow rip in peace mootyykins ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 17:45

one of the greatest communities to ever grace the Web

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 20:33

>>2
Maybe he becomes homeless and commits suicide.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 20:48

That motherfucker.
Fine, 4chan will probably be better without him. He's turned into such a boring normal faggot lately.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 21:48

lately
people still go there?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 21:59

>>8
Sure.
Where do you go for non-/prog/ramming discussion?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 22:09

>>9
non-/prog/ramming discussion?

i don't understand.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 22:53

>>10
check these dubs though.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 22:54

>>9
Infinity chan

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 23:02

>>12
Why would you use a site that's missing so many features and has such a small user base?
Are you a chan hipster?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 23:34

>>9
I also don't understand.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-21 23:52

>>9
>ur a faget
>no ur a faget
>discussion
stupid nigger, go to a forum if you want discussion.

>>2
/b/tard
nigger

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 0:16

>>13
What features are missing on it?
I like the /tech/ board, and some niche boards are nice even if slow.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 0:32

>>16
/tech/ is /g/ lite. Go the fuck back there if you like it so much, you fuckheads are more obnoxious than that Brazilian cunt.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 0:45

Why does he act so sweet and respectable about a site that is essentially a giant cesspool of extreme immaturity and sociopathy?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 1:01

>>18

Because moot is an skilled politician.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 1:09

/polecat kebabs/

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 1:35

>>17
Brazilian cunt
Who's that?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 1:50

>>16
The nice javascript features that 4chan has, such as seeing all the posts that have quoted a post.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 1:53

>>22
Backlinks?
It have them.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 2:05

>>22
The other chan has more features than 4chan has ever had.
That said, please keep imageboard discussion somewhere else.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 2:12

holy fuck
HOLY FUCK
no
NO
NO NO NO

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 2:46

The bricksocking of moot.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 2:59

*carpe mentula*

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 3:53

*carpe mentulam*

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 5:20

Thank god, this guy single handedly ruined my teenage years. There was no reason whatsoever I had to stay in my room on my computer shitposting and training for this soul crushing occupation.

Name: >>29 2015-01-22 5:22

And my occupation == Java, C++ codemonkey, B.S. in CS

In hindsight I would have majored in business and fucked girls instead.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 5:40

how much could 4chan cost to buy??

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 6:09

>>31
Six hundred fifty thousand tacos.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 6:20

>>31
One sql injection.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 7:19

And nothing of value was lost.

I stopped visiting 4chan when Moot killed world4ch & stopped caring entirely when Moot got BTFO by /pol/ and destroyed it in retaliation.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 8:42

>>34
BTFO
muh /pol/
you belong there faggot

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-22 9:04

>>34
Moot got BTFO by /pol/
I think you mean /pol/ got BTFO.
What, you think cuckolding rumours and conspiracy theories are crushing? You don't think he hasn't had far worse?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 20:10

https://boards.4chan.org/qa/
the queen is talking

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-23 20:44

2006-2007 best years
~moot

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 5:08

>>17
But tech has better quality posters

And a community's speed is inversely proportionate to its quality

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 5:31

Don't worry, 4chan LLC will survive him. They even have contracts now.
http://blog.4chan.org/post/108414215167/new-requirement-for-4chan-volunteers-going-forward

Recently we introduced a new requirement for 4chan’s volunteer moderators and janitors, which is that they sign a volunteer agreement that puts in writing a number of things that have always been true, namely that:

Moderating 4chan is a volunteer position and not a real “job” in any sense of the word (yes, they truly do it >for free), however we expect volunteers to conduct themselves in a professional manner and in accordance with the moderation guidelines and training we provide.
Volunteers are expected to hold in confidence any and all private information they come into contact with, especially regarding our users, and they are not to use or disseminate that information except to perform their volunteer duties.

In addition to signing this formal agreement, we now require proof of identity from all volunteers, present and future. Why? So we can enforce the agreement should it be violated (ie. user information being misused, leaks, etc) and establish a liability barrier in between the company and its volunteers.

Most large websites with analogous volunteer roles use similar agreements, and we were long overdue for one of our own. You can find a full copy of the agreement below (note this will be mandatory as of our next janitor drive):
4chan, LLC
Volunteer Moderator Agreement

The following are the agreed-upon terms pursuant to which you will be volunteering with 4chan, LLC (“4chan”) as a Volunteer Moderator:

1. Duties. This is a volunteer position. As a Volunteer Moderator, you will monitor user-posted content on 4chan’s website at 4chan.org, including its subdomains and associated domains and any message boards contained thereon (collectively, the “Website”), and (a) report, edit, and/or remove user-posted content that is in violation of the Rules posted at https://www.4chan.org/rules (“Prohibited Content”) and (b) block users from accessing the Website for posting Prohibited Content (collectively, the “Moderation Duties”). You will perform the Moderation Duties in accordance with this letter agreement and any instructions and guidelines for Volunteer Moderators provided by 4chan to you from time-to-time. By entering into this letter agreement and performing the Moderation Duties, you represent and warrant that (x) you have no contractual commitments or other legal obligations that would prohibit your activities in connection with 4chan, (y) you will perform the Moderation Duties in a good and professional manner, and (z) you have full power, right and authority to enter into this letter agreement.

2. Relationship; No Compensation. You understand and agree that this is an unpaid, volunteer position and not an employment relationship. This position is for no specific period of time and will be “at will,” meaning that either you or 4chan may terminate your position and the service relationship at any time and for any reason, with or without cause. Although you must perform the Moderation Duties in accordance with all terms and conditions contained in this letter agreement, or as otherwise provided by 4chan to you, 4chan does not require any specific time commitment for this position (i.e. it is not “full time” or “part time”), and the amount of time you spend performing the Moderation Duties is solely at your own discretion. You acknowledge and agree that 4chan will not pay you any wages or other compensation (including without limitation any equity or ownership share in 4chan) at any time, now or in the future, under any circumstances, for performing the Moderation Duties, and you will not be eligible to participate in any 4chan company-sponsored benefits. Any contrary representations that may have been made to you are superseded by this letter agreement. 4chan may terminate your position and the service relationship with or without notice to you.

3. Identity Verification. Your service with 4chan is contingent upon your providing legal proof of your identity and your representation hereunder that you are authorized to work for 4chan. Prior to starting the Moderation Duties, you must provide 4chan with a copy of a government-issued identification document (e.g. a passport or driver’s license) in a form reasonably acceptable to 4chan. You represent and warrant that all information you provide regarding your identity and ability to perform the Moderation Duties, including but not limited to any form of identification you provide, is valid, accurate and up-to-date. You acknowledge that providing 4chan with any false or inaccurate information regarding your identity is both a breach of this contract and a punishable offense under law.

4. Proprietary Information. You acknowledge that in the course of performing the Moderation Duties, you may encounter or otherwise gain access to certain Proprietary Information of 4chan, and you agree to hold in confidence and not disclose to any third parties in any manner or medium whatsoever or, except in performing the Moderation Duties, use any Proprietary Information. “Proprietary Information” means all financial, business, legal and technical information of 4chan or any of its affiliates, suppliers, customers, users, contractors, owners, and employees (including without limitation information about user-posted content, personally identifiable information pertaining to users (such as but not limited to IP addresses, location, and cookie data), team member identities or nicknames (including without limitation other moderators, and regardless of whether such identities or nicknames are real-life or virtual), chat logs, orientation materials, legal or regulatory affairs, operations, marketing, transactions, inventions, processes, materials, data, know-how and ideas, whether tangible or intangible, and including all copies and other derivatives thereof), that is previously, presently or subsequently disclosed by or for 4chan to you or which is otherwise made available to you or which you learn in the course of performing the Moderation Duties. For the avoidance of doubt, this letter agreement, its terms, and its existence shall constitute 4chan’s Proprietary Information. Upon termination or as otherwise requested by 4chan, you will promptly return to 4chan all items and copies containing or embodying Proprietary Information.

5. Survival. Your obligations under Sections 4, 5 and 6 of this letter agreement shall survive any termination or expiration of this letter agreement.

6. Miscellaneous. This letter agreement constitutes the entire agreement, and supersedes all prior negotiations, understandings or agreements (oral or written), between the parties concerning the subject matter hereof. No change, consent or waiver to this letter agreement will be effective unless in writing and signed by the party against which enforcement is sought. The failure of 4chan to enforce its rights under this letter agreement at any time for any period shall not be construed as a waiver of such rights. Unless expressly provided otherwise, each right and remedy in this letter agreement is in addition to any other right or remedy, at law or in equity, and the exercise of one right or remedy will not be deemed a waiver of any other right or remedy. In the event that any provision of this letter agreement shall be determined to be illegal or unenforceable, that provision will be limited or eliminated to the minimum extent necessary so that letter agreement shall otherwise remain in full force and effect and enforceable. This letter agreement shall be governed by and construed in accordance with the laws of the State of New York, USA without regard to the conflicts of laws provisions thereof. Exclusive jurisdiction and venue for any action arising under this letter agreement is in the federal and state courts located in New York City, and both parties hereby consent to such jurisdiction and venue for this purpose. Any notice hereunder will be effective upon receipt and shall be given in writing, in English and delivered to the other party in a manner indicated by 4chan.


As for any future leaks that may inevitably occur—frankly, I look forward to them. I’ve been amused by past leaks because they usually show just how mundane and even-keeled 4chan’s moderation team is.

I don’t communicate this nearly often enough, but I am deeply grateful to our team of dedicated volunteers. Thank you.

—moot

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 7:53

4chan LLC
wasn't there a 5-year troll post about future 4chan been purchased by MTV and turned into SFW image chat

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 11:52

>>39
Being slightly better than utter garbage is not an accomplishment.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 12:52

>>1
Gawker subsidiary
Shalom!

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 13:01

>>41
wasn't there a 5-year troll post about future 4chan been purchased by MTV and turned into SFW image chat
That is already happened.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 15:52

>>40
Your service with 4chan is contingent upon your providing legal proof of your identity [...] You acknowledge that providing 4chan with any false or inaccurate information regarding your identity is both a breach of this contract and a punishable offense under law.

Why would anyone ever consent to this?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 16:36

>>45
Because Anonymous is legion.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 17:47

>>46
That's precisely why it's stupid to give out this information. All it takes is one incompetent site admin to furnish the whole board with your contact details.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 18:28

>>45
4chan is much like the USA itself: an illusion of freedom, but actually a totalitarian prison pen.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 20:30

The leaked logs paint a dark image of who really controls the site.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 21:23

>>45
Because they have no choice.
There's good reason 4chan demands the identity of its employees.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 21:58

>>50
And that reason is "FBI".

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 22:08

>>51
No it's to prevent shitty employees and trolls from being hired.
Imagine manly tears got selected as a janitor for /v/; the second you saw his face on his ID you'd NOPE, fire him, and dox him.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 23:08

>>52
Imagine manly tears got selected as a janitor for /v/;
Who?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-26 23:24

>>53
An attention whoring tripfag who's about 4 feet tall.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 0:16

>>54
Tell him to check my dubs.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 0:24

>>55
I view post numbers in base 16.
Those aren't dubs.
Pathetic.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 0:33

>>56
I don't.
They are dubs.
They are sweet.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 1:21

>>40
Wow. How fucking pathetic do you have to be to send all your information to a random fuckbag who has proven he has no clue about security many times over* (or his successor, I guess) so he can sue you if you fuck up, in return for absolutely nothing but the privilege of deleting child porn and other garbage off a shitty imageboard? What next, a credit report? From a cursory glance at the logs, some of these janitors are online twelve hours a day. Are they so devoted to a zombie site that is running on pure inertia that they are blind to the fact that that is everything that 4chan once stood against.

>>50-52
I agree with >>51 chan. Look at the timing. Thousands of whorish celebrities have porn of them stolen from Apple. Apple deflects blame to 4chan. But who can moot deflect blame to? All he has to his name is a mountain of 4chan Gold money and a utter failure startup. Well now it is officially the ``volunteer'''s responsibility to remove it, and with their information on file, that lawsuit can get passed right on along. Bravo moot, for setting things up properly before you left the burning building. Now no one can touch you.

__________________________________
* - Besides all the various 4chan hacks over the years, Canv.as had their AWS thing hacked by a bitcoin miner and it cost them tens of thousands of dollars before the figured out what was happening.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 1:57

>>58
Eat dick.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 2:09

>>59
Get your rude ass outta here!

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 2:56

>>58
4chan Gold
4chan Gold is nothing. You have any idea how much he made off of 4chan diamond? Enough to wipe his ass with hundreds!
He still sold out to gawker though! You can't cure that kind of super greed! I know you're stupid, but I'm not being serious here, ok? I'm making fun of you for thinking 4chan gold is real and moot is rich.

lawsuit
When they file a DMCA takedown request the content is taken down. Hell, in most cases it's probably taken down before they can even file the request because lol ephemeral content.

FBI
What's that got to do with lawsuits from stupid celebrities?
Do you really think the FBI spends their time discussing the best ways to blame 4chan janitors for celebrity nudes? You're crazier than Terry!

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 3:04

>>61
You fucking autistic moron.

I know you're stupid, but I'm not being serious here, ok? I'm making fun of you for thinking 4chan gold is real and moot is rich.
I was alluding to 4chan pass.

When they file a DMCA takedown request the content is taken down. Hell, in most cases it's probably taken down before they can even file the request because lol ephemeral content.
Listen to the first fifteen minutes of his farewell address. He talks about spending thousands on lawyers because famous sluts wanted to sue him for damages to their image. DMCA is not the only law in the country, you know. And whether they win or lose, that money is still in Shlomberg and Shlomberg Legal's pockets.

Do you really think the FBI spends their time discussing the best ways to blame 4chan janitors for celebrity nudes?
I meant that there was a legal force compelling these actions. Please try to not think so narrowmindedly.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 3:23

I'm now concerned about the state of the textboards. Moot kept them going, even though they're frozen and can't be posted on, but at least we have an archive. What if the new owners really don't care at all and just delete the dis. subdomain entirely? What if all our years of shitposting on the obscurest section of 4chan are suddenly gone without a trace of their existence?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 3:23

>>62
I was alluding to 4chan pass.
They're nothing alike.
Buying a pass only means you don't have to type in the captcha.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 3:38

>>63
In his farewell video, he alluded to three contenders for the throne, one of which was a server admin who used to be a dev, who had been on the team for, like, ten years. I can only guess that that is MrVacBob-sama-kun-hime. But the other two were some guy who wrote some userscript, and some old mod. Who knows where the cards will fall. But there are already backups made of all of w4ch with /prog/scrape. If I recall correctly, they were uploaded to the archive.org and Admin-kami hosts them here, and of course, any self-respecting /prog/rider already has them saved on at least three mediums and a base64 encoded hardcopy in both print and braille.

>>64
Well, they are alike in that they both cost money, which could be argued is the most important and relevant attribute in the context that I presented.

I will not respond to you again.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 3:40

>>64
Not the guy you're arguing with, but I think you're missing the point. There's obviously at least some money involved in 4chan passes, and his statement was that moot profited off of it. You can't seem to get past the fact that he used the wrong name.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 4:05

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 4:10

I have a strong need to say something and every I would like to say has been said in >>58.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 4:14

>>66
20 from a healthy fraction of 4chan users is a significant amount of money. moot is such a scumbag.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 4:21

>>69
Why?
He ran 4chan out of his own pocket, making a loss for 10 years. What's bad about him finally getting a little money back?
We're lucky he even decided to keep the financial burden that was 4chan alive.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 4:35

>>70
People like to complain.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 4:36

I seriously hope you guys are redditors or something.
How could somebody use a website when they seem to hate it so much.
You're so entitled.
Worse than black people and native Americans.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 4:58

>>72
People like to complain.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 5:11

>>70
I don't begrudge him for making money at all. I'm just annoyed by this about-face. I spent a lot of time there long ago and it saddens me to see it fall this far. The fun of 4chan was because it wasn't just a web forum with image attachments enabled where you payed your $10 to get a chance at sucking off a bunch self-important twats with a little moderator tag on their profile, and arguments weren't won by getting your mod buddies to ban someone. Most importantly, it never took itself seriously. Now there is a 4chan LLC and a contract of indemnity and non-disclosure for the mods, and they want proof of identity, etc. It's like it's trying to be Reddit, but I don't think that even Reddit does that. I realize that it would probably be hard to make money, which I again state that I am not against, without lawyering up and what not, but I feel a loss none-the-less.

Consider the day that dis.4chan.org is no longer hosted. Yeah, we have archives, but no one will see them. Excepting the unlikely event that someone rehost it, old /prog/ culture will be gone from the larger internet culture for good. The archives are no more than museum relics from a long forgotten civilization that died without note, and no more people will browse the pages and gaze with morbid curiosity upon our musings and performance arts.

It's the same with 4chan in general. The spark that made it fun is now destroyed and it will probably never recover. (Perhaps ironically, it is that spark that destroys things, because intruders demand entry, but then redecorate the places to resemble the places they were trying to get away from).

But I've digressed quite a bit.

>>72
I don't use 4chan anymore. Even shitposting on /jp/ has long since lost it's appeal years ago. And it is suprisingly little consolation that the meidos were in fact getting buttblasted in their private channels about it. I used to use /c/ a lot, but dedicated boorus and an english interface to pixiv obsoleted it. Everyone on the other boards are just boring and uninteresting. There's just no reason to go other than for meta discussion on it's failings.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 5:38

>>70
He doesn't pay his employees. He pays them with stockholm syndrome. These people are scum. Like walmart takes advantage of migrant workers. Moot takes advantage of shut ins whose only perceived accomplishment is the title of moderator on some unsanitary corner of the internet.

>>74
Excepting the unlikely event that someone rehost it,
**contains frustration** Please read the entirity of >>67, or search for ``heliohost''.

no more people will browse the pages and gaze with morbid curiosity upon our musings and performance arts.
Print a copy of the old testament and shelve it at your local library.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 5:59

I just found out you can still report threads on world4ch. I wonder if the mods and janitors get notifications from the textboards still. Probably not. But I'm going to report threads anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 6:20

Didn't someone report every thread on /prog/ during the mod war?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 6:46

>>76
Why could you even report threads?
It's not like there was 3d CP.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 6:52

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Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 7:11

>>79
How do I report this post?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 7:28

>>79
Fuck.
I'm an Australian and I just got arrested for viewing this.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 8:51

>>52
Banning login credentials should be more than enough. Janitors can easily be vetted by allowing candidates to post pseudonymously while logged in, with their usernames made visible to the admins alone. I'd be surprised if some form of this wasn't already in use.

Demanding real names means the admins want to be able to pursue legal action against volunteers. This might be considered necessary for admins because maintaining ownership of the servers is very difficult to do without disclosing identities, but I can think of no good reason to ask the same of janitors.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 10:51

>>82
What's to stop you from accidentally rehiring a canned janitor if you don't know who they are?

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 11:00

>>83
Nothing. If someone cares to go through the trouble of getting vetted again, they can obtain new credentials.

I have no clue how large the candidate pool for a large board can get. If the size is manageable, repeat offenders could be identified by their posting style.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 11:56

>>74
Excepting the unlikely event that someone rehost it
http://w5ch.heliohost.org/
Posting is enabled. It's been getting a few spam posts though.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 22:10

>>85
Considering how long its been up with no moderation I'm surprised it hasn't been hit more. Only /prog/ has been hit so far. The no-links-on-the-front-page trick has worked so far at keeping automated spam from hitting the other boards. Robots must have followed links to the /prog/ board from here.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-27 22:16

If you try to get to the page and heliohost says the site has been suspended for inactivity (because I haven't logged into c-panel at least once a month), just enter the username, ``w5ch'' and click the renew button, or whatever it is. This isn't a problem because no one is using it, but just so you know.

>>82
[13:57:54] <moots> it'll be stored locally on my harddrive in an encrypted container
[13:58:06] <moots> and used to enforce the agreement, comply with legal/law enforcement requests and obligations, etc
[13:59:58] <moots> it will likely be held indefinitely, because the agreement stays in force indefinitely.
[14:00:09] <moots> you cant resign and leak shit

and leak shit
There's his motive.

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 0:03

>>87
well it looks like that worked out well for him!

Name: Anonymous 2015-01-28 1:28

>>88
It's as if the disgruntled janitor said to himself, ``oh yes I can!''

Name: dank 2015-01-29 9:40

dank

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