<vanila> how do i make python refer to python2? <Earnestly> vanila: You don't <Earnestly> vanila: You fix the scripts instead <vanila> Earnestly, google arent taking any patches from me <Earnestly> vanila: So? <Earnestly> !give vanila xyproblem <phrik> vanila: Tell us what you're REALLY trying to do. http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem <vanila> how do i make python refer to python2? <vanila> youre the xy problem <teraflop> yumbox: yes vanila <vanila> Earnestly, fixing the scrips is bad advice btw <Earnestly> vanila: No it's not <vanila> wrong <Earnestly> vanila: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ <sudokode> PEP 1394 -- Implementing firewire support in python <vanila> Earnestly, if you edit the scripts the rest of the build process cannot continue <Earnestly> vanila: Uhuh. <teraflop> vanila: ^ teraflop!*@* added to ignore list. <Earnestly> vanila: To be fair, although you're wrong, google's build systems are totally fucky, and in those cases you have to use some horrible hacks to make it happy <vanila> Earnestly, youre wrong <bougyman> doesn't google use mostly buildbot? <bougyman> I know they contribute a lot to it. <Earnestly> bougyman: Their build scripts almost literally do system("python lolwesuck") <keenerd> vanila: What are you trying to build/package? <vanila> keenerd, blink <dav1d> vanila: what is the issue python beeing python3? <vanila> ther code is written in python2 <dav1d> vanila: if so, make a python symlinkt to python2 and put it to the front of your $PATH <Earnestly> blink is? <lyonsb> python2-mako? <Earnestly> the SIP client? <vanila> dav1d, yeah thats what I did, thanks though <bougyman> you can't speak in generalisms and expect solutions. <keenerd> dav1d: Horrible bad advice. <Earnestly> dav1d: Stop it <dav1d> vanila: had to do this for several things, I think CEF e.g. <vanila> keenerd, dav1d is right <dav1d> of course it's horrible, but the easiest thing to do <keenerd> vanila: No, you are quite incorrect. <bougyman> yumbox: what environment are you using? <vanila> keenerd, no <dav1d> virtualenv could also work <Earnestly> keenerd: It's not worth it. He just wanted an idiot like dav1d to tell him what he wanted to hear. Don't bother <keenerd> Earnestly: Oh, I know. <vanila> Earnestly, youre being abusive <dav1d> Earnestly: what's wrong with you lately, I remember awesome conversations with you, the last days all I hear from you is salt :( <Earnestly> keenerd: If it's the SIP client, you'd just set python2 via the setup.py and it'd be fine. <dav1d> Earnestly: you wanna talk? <Earnestly> dav1d: Because you're constantly giving dangerous or stupid suggestions lately <Earnestly> dav1d: Please stop <vanila> I dont think Earnestly can handle being wrong <keenerd> Earnestly: He said it was chromium's blink. <vanila> but everyone makes mistakes <vanila> so theres no reason to start bullying people <dav1d> Earnestly: you gave up on gl? <Earnestly> keenerd: Yeah, their build systems essentially call python via system() <Earnestly> keenerd: So working around google stupidity is going to involve lots of hacks <Earnestly> vanila: Dude, do as you please, I stopped caring when all you could ever say was "no youre wrong". <keenerd> Earnestly: By the way, if you want to see something horrific just look at the chromium pkgbuild. <vanila> Earnestly, youre talking about yourself mate <vanila> <Earnestly> vanila: No it's not <vanila> <Earnestly> vanila: Uhuh. <vanila> give it up <Earnestly> vanila: You're dead set on how something should be to the point where any suggestions are outside the scope of thought <vanila> no idea what that even means <vanila> what you originall said "fix the scripts" was wrong <keenerd> vanila: It means you refuse to listen to reason. <vanila> deal with it <vanila> keenerd, <keenerd> vanila: No, you are quite incorrect. -- this isnt reason <Earnestly> keenerd: Yeah, it's scary <Earnestly> demize: Would you mind? :/ <vanila> if you actually said something with reason in it id be very interested <d_garbage> vanila, why not just move on? <keenerd> vanila: It was covered in the PEP link. * ChanServ gives channel operator status to demize * You have been kicked from #archlinux by demize (Here's your reason: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/)
<vanila> hey <vanila> why was I the one that got kicked? <demize> Because you're the one who isn't listening to reasons and then claiming that there wasn't any. <vanila> did you read the chat? <demize> I did. <demize> Did you? <vanila> I dont think you read or understood what was going on, you just jump when Earnestly snaps his fingers <demize> Please take a break and calm down, you're starting to embarrass yourself. <vanila> I dont feel embarrassed, disappointed that you'd stick up for the bullying those people were doing <demize> They were bullying no-one. <vanila> they were <vanila> youd see this if youd read the chat
* CountryfiedLinux (~rober@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux) has joined <CountryfiedLinux> howdy <CountryfiedLinux> Is fail2ban available in the official repository or the AUR? <Dan39> why dont you look yourself? <notauser> I think I finally am getting the hang of this lol, though I'm still having issues getting GPU passthrough to work <dead385> it is avalibe in the offical repo * kerunaru has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) <Earnestly> CountryfiedLinux: I'm curious, what do you need it for? <szt> notauser: I'm jealous. * f3bruary (~f3bruary@unaffiliated/f3bruary) has left * ponyrider has quit (Remote host closed the connection) <tanj> aura is a nice AUR helper <CountryfiedLinux> ok cool thanks dead385 <CountryfiedLinux> Earnestly, security <tanj> and i'm not saying that because it's written in Haskell <notauser> I also found out about synergy today which is amazing. <Earnestly> CountryfiedLinux: That's not really an answer :/ * codeamend has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.2) <szt> notauser: I'm still jealous. * ponyrider (~ponyrider@unaffiliated/ponyrider) has joined <Earnestly> CountryfiedLinux: Not turning on your computer could be for "security" too * askatasuna has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) <notauser> Ohhh that's an Idea synergy over an airgap! * hardfalcon (~hardfalco@x5ce4bae6.dyn.telefonica.de) has joined <szt> notauser: what type of system do you got? <szt> I want VGA passthrough myself <CountryfiedLinux> I was just asking if it's available in either repository Earnestly . Thank you dead385 . <notauser> A 4790 with a Tesla K10 (actually a GTX680 witha 40k) * fstd has quit (Remote host closed the connection) <Earnestly> CountryfiedLinux: Sure, that's fine. I'm asking you what you'd use it for, why so passive aggresive? * fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) has joined <Earnestly> ss* * lsyoyom (~chatzilla@pool-173-70-59-249.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) has joined <szt> notauser: isn't that a workstation gpu? * lindenk has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) <Earnestly> szt: It has 128 bit floats * pid1 (~pid1@50.28.133.74) has joined <szt> Earnestly: what does that mean? <notauser> Yeah you need the product ID to be able to work in a VM due to stupid nvidia drivers <Earnestly> szt: It has 128bit floating point types * traverseda (~alex@142.68.77.130) has joined <szt> So it is a workstation gpu? * gwash (~gwash@197.38.19.70) has joined * Jonakeys (~jonathan@5ED42AD4.cm-7-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined * yoosi (~yoosi@c-67-183-66-97.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined <notauser> No it's a GTX 680 that's modded to have it's ID changed * vlatkoB has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) * yomisei has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) <CountryfiedLinux> Aggressive? Me? not at all haha. * mlopezviedma (bed3ce67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.211.206.103) has joined * mlopezviedma (bed3ce67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.211.206.103) has left <szt> oh <szt> But won't that mess up the drivers? <notauser> But it's the same GPU chip <szt> Also what board and cpu do you got? * ponyrider has quit (Remote host closed the connection) * Auv has quit (Quit: Leaving) * sololittle has quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) * Tazmain has quit (Quit: Leaving) <notauser> Z87M Extreme4 with a 4790k@ 4.7Ghz * ponyrider (~ponyrider@unaffiliated/ponyrider) has joined <szt> so intel stuff <Earnestly> CountryfiedLinux: Alrighty, so why would you use fail2ban? <notauser> Yeah I don't have any thing other than intel around here no adays lol <szt> from what I read you need to have very specific h/w combination to get VGA passthrough to work with intel <szt> plus you need to apply some kernel patch <Earnestly> You don't really <Earnestly> You just need a GPU dedicated to passthrouh, and nothing else <szt> I'm refering to this post <szt> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162768 <phrik> Title: KVM VGA-Passthrough using the new vfio-vga support in kernel =>3.9 / Community Contributions / Arch Linux Forums (at bbs.archlinux.org) <szt> I don't know if it's still valid * lsyoyom has quit (Quit: WeeChat 1.2) <Earnestly> szt: You don't? <notauser> I got it to start up just not display anything on the screen <szt> Well no the post is a couple years old * lebenserfahrung has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) <szt> I was just stating what I read in that post * whphhg (~whphhg@179.43.151.2) has joined <CountryfiedLinux> Earnestly, Combination of security and curiosity. I probably don't really need it but wouldn't hurt. <Earnestly> CountryfiedLinux: Ehhh <dead385> Can I use tint2 with XFCE? <Earnestly> So you don't really know why you need it, that's fine. Play and see * GI_Jack has quit (Quit: Leaving) <CountryfiedLinux> security <pid1> dead385, Yes. <Earnestly> CountryfiedLinux: You keep saying that word * l00t has quit (Quit: Saindo) <szt> get sshguard <szt> I prefer it over fail2ban <Earnestly> m| * edsonduarte1990 has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) <Earnestly> You realise nftables/iptables can do this is a much more robust manner? <Earnestly> Instead of grepping log files... <szt> I don't like how fail2ban sniffs the logs <CountryfiedLinux> What I really need is new shoes. <szt> yeah <szt> lol OT <Earnestly> Sigh * ponyrider has quit (Remote host closed the connection) <CountryfiedLinux> If you want to know why I can be more specific about that :P <Earnestly> One day, fail2ban will die and all of the crap like it <szt> Earnestly: what about sshguard? * cfricke has quit (Quit: leaving) <Earnestly> szt: Same boat. * ponyrider (~ponyrider@unaffiliated/ponyrider) has joined <Earnestly> Does the same thing <szt> really? <CountryfiedLinux> Honestly security mostly relies on the user. <Earnestly> !give CountryfiedLinux six <phrik> CountryfiedLinux: Six dumbest ideas in computer security: http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/editorials/dumb/ <Earnestly> !give CountryfiedLinux yt defcon dirty little lies <szt> IIRC it works together with iptables <phrik> CountryfiedLinux: DEFCON 15: Dirty Secrets of the Security Industry - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmv3n97B_l8>
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<CountryfiedLinux> Earnestly, The colors remind me of Crunchbang. That theme gave me a warm fuzzy feeling :) <Earnestly> CountryfiedLinux: I ask people who do strange things why, not one has actually ever known yet * ponyrider (~ponyrider@unaffiliated/ponyrider) has joined <CountryfiedLinux> Oh I do lots of strange things. <Earnestly> And you know, that's fine. <Earnestly> But they have to try and bullshit instead of just being honest, and that's amusing * ndrei has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) <beest> that's no fun for me when i can just kill password login and watch asian ips try to hammer the password for the postgres user i don't have in the first place <CountryfiedLinux> no bullshit here :) I'm honest about not knowing much about a lot of things. * romano2k_ (~romain@unaffiliated/romano2k) has joined <Earnestly> CountryfiedLinux: "security" <Earnestly> "potatoes", just as much meaning <CountryfiedLinux> I love sweet taters :) <CountryfiedLinux> gotta go bbl
>>17 I can spell and punctuate I just choose not to. I don't want to use an operating system that is unnecessarily difficult to use. I want something that works in the way you tell it to and respects freedom.