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[BREAKING] Swift will be OpenSores later this year.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 18:38

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 18:47

Who cares, it's just a watered-down glamour version of Algol-68.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 19:21

swift it fucking retarded but im glad they open it

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 19:41

>>2
You're thinking Go... IHBT

>>3
It's not perfect but it's waywaywaywayway better than most of the shit the hipstards will be dropping for it.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 19:45

>>4
As if there's any real difference between all those trendy corporate-made cubicle-hamster-in-a-wheel languages.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 20:15

>>5
So you'd quit Lisp if MS made an implementation, huh?

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 20:16

>>6
They won't. Lisp is not friendly or conducive to cubicle farm animals.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 20:20

>>7
What about Clojure?

Name: totally not stan i swear 2015-06-08 20:21

>>8
Clojure is not a Lisp

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 20:23

>>8
As has been proven time and again, Clojure is not a Lisp.

Perhaps you meant: Clozure.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 20:31

>>7
That doesn't answer the question.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 20:34

>>11
Would you quit Lisp if the sun started rising in the west and setting in the east?

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-08 20:42

>>12
Fnord.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-09 8:36

>>2
Every new language is a "worse is better" bastardization of Algol-68.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-09 8:38

>>13
What should I do with my copy of the illuminatus trilogy? Should I sacrifice it by fire, leave it somewhere for some random person to pick up, or simply throw it in the bin?

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-09 8:45

I'd give it to timothy leary but apparently he died from an LSD OVERDOSE

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-09 9:20

The illuminati rejected my application ;_;

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-09 10:06

>>17
yeah they're all like "come back when you have a stupid university degree"

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-09 11:00

Exceptions, that means it's trash

Name: Zhivago 2015-06-09 11:48

>>19
Which excepts mean it's trash?

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-09 11:50

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-09 14:06

Rudolf Winestock the Smugster

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-09 14:07

now we're getting some characters

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-10 2:25

Why isn't Clojure considered a Lisp? It has tons of parentheses.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-10 2:46

>>24
Brainfuck with tr '[]' '()' is a Lisp.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-10 7:50

>>21
That was really good. Thanks.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-10 8:03

The Real Lisp Curse is performance.
If it was winning benchmarks its ugly syntax would be forgiven. But with lackluster performance and ugly syntax it won't be.
It doesn't have a niche like JavaScript where its dominant and it doesn't appeal to newbie programmers like Python or Ruby.
And to top it off many languages have absorbed the "killer features" of Lisp over the years, so the advantage of Lisp is shrinking every day.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-10 19:35

>>14
Dependently-typed, total languages aren't. Algol never had full dependent types or totality proofs.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-10 19:38

>>24
C++ has lots of ([{}]); just like C, but you don't call it C, do you?

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 3:38

>>27
SBCL is surprisingly fast once it's done loading and your code is compiled.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 3:49

>>30
That's what they say about Java.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 4:19

>>31
It's also what they say about haskell.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 9:14

SLAM DUNK!

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 14:59

>>32
Nah, what they say about Haskell is it's surprisingly fast once you've rewritten it in an awkward unidiomatic style.

Same goes for OCaml, but its compiler doesn't even do optimization to speak of... at least that is changing.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 17:47

>>34
OCaml is like old school C. You don't need an optimizer because you can write the optimizations in your code.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 17:57

>>35
Yeah, but inlining and peephole optimization will be nice to have.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 19:34

Pee-hole optimization.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:10

>>37
Like with a tapered object of some kind?

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-11 22:37

>>38
That would work but nobody uses the OO part of OCaml.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-12 0:36

>>39
Touché. I concede.

Name: Anonymous 2015-06-12 7:47

>>20
Because EXCEPTIONAL programming is a plague

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