Back in the old /prog/ I warned you about it; now things are getting more clear:
Encryption a growing threat to security [...] Unfortunately, this scenario is not at all far-fetched. Recently, FBI Director James Comey testified before Congress that terror groups such as ISIS are using encrypted programs to hide their communications and recruiting messages from U.S. federal agencies.[...] What could a solution look like? The most obvious one is that U.S. tech companies keep a key to that encrypted communication for legitimate law enforcement purposes. they should also keep a master key, because it may one day save thousands of lives
So don't worry, we will make those damn encryption ``algorithms'' (an arab/terrorist word) illegal in the next couple of years!
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Anonymous2015-08-03 17:01
master key = backdoor? what are they talking about?
its impossible to make encryption illegal, the same way it is impossible to make pirating illegal. (Sure, it is illegal, but it is also a daily phenomenon).
And how many people would die if the master key was compromised?
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Anonymous2015-08-04 1:18
>>5 A war could break out if the master key didn't exist to be compromised. Forget about terrorists for a second, who are small problems anyway, and focus on the real possibilities if groups with real resources can be allowed to just encrypt anything at all. Just think about a different threat that we thought vanquished but is planning to rear it's ugly head again soon. One day, Mexico sends an encrypted notice to Germany to state that it will take it up on it's offer. The US can't read the message, so they don't know what's about to happen. Britain's totally in the dark, and France is drunk, so no one sees it coming. That offer they accept: the Zimmerman Telegram. They've been waiting for this day. BOOM goes Germany as the Kaiser resumes power and attacks France through Belgium to resume World War One. The trenches are dug thirty miles from Paris, where both nations start gassing each other. Hundreds of thousands killed in a matter of days. Only this time, instead of just incendiary shells, they lob nuclear weapons from their artillery. Millions of civilians are killed with every passing minute. Soldiers on both sides are crushed by each others tanks, but the generals refuse to admit that the age of trench warfare is over, and persist in sending wave after wave of men (and women and trans-women) in suicide attacks that gain nothing. A victorious battle's gains are measured in centimeters. British, American, and French are slaughtered by superior German engineering. Meanwhile, on the eastern front, Czar Putin's main forces are busy brutalizing Ukrainian peasants and they have to send their forces against Germany armed with nothing but broken vodka bottles. The Germans kill so many Russians that they begin to feel bad and surrender out of pity. Allied forces have the dim idea to attack the ISIS Caliphate in Istanbul, but, aided by German machinery, were able to obtain air superiority and crash half the US Air Force's fleet. China starts thinking that now might be a good time to take back the Senkaku Islands, so invade Japan. After taking Tokyo and killing Hatsune Miku, the Japanese are enraged to the point of imperialistic fervor and, taking loses in the tens of millions, repel the Chinese. They conscript every man, woman, and teenage boy to man the battle suits and begin reclaiming their previous territory. Oh, and don't forget about Mexico. The millions of sleeper cells are activated and kill every cowboy in Texas, causing a meat and oil shortage. Ordinary American citizens starve to death while the unmanaged cows walk a mere meter from them. The energy crisis means phones can no longer be charged and gas prices reach almost $4.20 a gallon. The US collapses into civil war. The South quickly reinstitutes slavery and fights well as they throw slave after slave into the path of Union machines, which they must avoid at the cost of their own lives because Black Lives Matter. Cut off from the south, the Union is forced to invade Canada to get the oil needed for a war on two fronts. Meanwhile, Mongolia has been freaking the fuck out when both Russia and China go to war, and, having no other choice, assembles the hordes in case they need to defend their country. But, by the time they assemble, China is getting raped by Japan and Russia is falling apart from the inside. Realizing their position of power, a new Khan is chosen and attacks China in a brutal assault. The Mongol hordes swiftly depopulate China, killing hundreds of millions and raping almost 400 million women. Since the Japanese had already raped all the children, they lose interest rather quickly and expand into the Middle East. With all the rapes and beheadings, the Islamic world doesn't even know that their there until it is too late. Even the oligarchs are taken aback by the violence and Russia renews it's oath of fealty to the Ruler of All Who Dwell in Tents once more. The Khan decides to complete the mission to conquer the entire globe once and for all. They round up all the citizens they find and herd them like animals into the gunfire onslaught until the enemy soldiers run out of bullets when they attack Europe. Exhausted and factionalized, the European countries fall one by one to the savage, illiterate barbarians mounted on horseback. Tens of billions of tons of loot is hauled back to Mongolia. They finally reach the Atlantic and split their forces. One army expands south into Africa and takes everything in a matter of hours. The other attacks North America over the North Pole and take everything in their brutal march south. After only a few years, the only independent countries are the islands, because the Mongols are too fucking stupid to build boats. With less than a billion people still left alive, the world is plunged into a ten thousand year dark age.
All because you people are too paranoid to give the government the power to gather intelligence. So, was it worth it?
>>9 You didn't stop at 'Zimmerman letter'? Lol. Also, hatsune miku?
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Anonymous2015-08-04 14:08
Why would anyone want to implement such illegal concept as cryptography anyway? Are you a terrorist-nigger, hiding from law enforcement?
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Anonymous2015-08-04 17:47
>>6 I never thought of it that way.... Maybe we should have encryption users arrested....
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Anonymous2015-08-04 17:49
Cryptography is for lawbreakers that have something to hide.
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Anonymous2015-08-04 18:17
The Mongol hordes swiftly depopulate China, killing hundreds of millions and raping almost 400 million women
I almost came. DO WANT.
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Anonymous2015-08-04 18:20
Hey, how about fighting terrorists without reading their emails? You know, the good old-fashioned way, when the CIA didn't get paid budget money to surf the Internet and upboat Rebbit all day.
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Anonymous2015-08-04 18:48
Consider this: A pack of wild crypto-mongols Savage, mounted Mongols nearing your civilized home. Burning your beautiful cities. Raping then killing your educated daughter. And you can't do shit since they use AES256 to communicate. The Mongol leader sends a coded message to his generals ordering them to fuck your wife with their spears. The primal Mongols finally intercept your plaintext. They watch fires made from your TV and you are forced to be their slave. Such is the downfall of Pro-privacy Man.
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Anonymous2015-08-04 19:32
It really doesn't matter: every mainstream IC in this planet is already bugged, from Intel to Qualcomm. If you really want random numbers the only way to go is to make a ttl homebrew computer and fill your entropy pool using some nuclear decay radiation source all this inside a faraday cage powered by a car battery. Or maybe use a 486, if you still own one...
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Anonymous2015-08-05 2:24
Stephan, a 24 year old gay male, encrypts all his medical records to hide the fact that he is HIV positive. By keeping the secret, he has infected 143 of his fellow degenerates with the disease. Good work, Stephan!
Mikhail is working abroad in Brazil. He is a political activist, and uses encryption to coordinate with his organization in Russia. He is working to make the world a better place by bringing Brazil closer to Russia. Good job, Mikhail!
Rotem is a banker. He provides liquidity for several small businesses. Due to the unique needs of these businesses, he has to work very closely with them to find deals that are best for them. Sometimes, for tax purposes, they need some creative accounting. Rotem uses encryption to keep his ledgers safe and his clients operating. Good job, Rotem!
All he has to do is not talk about having HIV. Boom. He can infect as many people as he wants before is caught and sent to jail. Then he can infect as many prisoners as he wants. The whole thing is stupid anyways. Who even has a copy of their medical records?
Mikhail make the world a better place by bringing Brazil closer to Russia
What's wrong with that? And if he was doing activism it would be obvious he was doing it. Part of activism is acting in the real world, talking to real people, with your real self, about something you want to happen in real life.
Rotem
If he is doing something illegal, the IRS should be able to figure it out from the record he submits alone. If they can't, the IRS needs to fix their shit.
Ok, I'm getting pissed. Fuck you. I think you're trolling but there's enough people out there that would seriously say this, so fuck you.
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Anonymous2015-08-06 4:10
>>21 Maria runs a family business that provides entertainment to vacationing foreign men. She uses encryption and anonymity networks to maintain her clients confidentiality, and crypto currencies to collect payment. She also always recommends ways to keep her clients memorabilia confidential as well. Her and her children couldn't be happier. Good job, Maria!
Aisha wants to stay up to date about things going on in her home country. She uses encryption to talk to people back home and to arrange transportation there, in hopes of a romantic marriage and helping out a popular political movement. Good job, Aisha!
Ladasha works for a courier service. Her job involves transporting parcels from the supplier to the customer. To adequately meet the of the clients in a fast-changing environment, the business she works at had to adopt a peculiar business model, where the package might be sent out without even knowing where it's supposed to go. She uses encrypted phone calls to coordinate with the clients to find out where they would like their product delivered as fast as possible. Good job, Ladasha!
>>19,24 So serial killers, spies, money launderers, pedos?, terrorist (sympathizers), and drug dealers? This is the same old list with an appeal to emotion.
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Anonymous2015-11-18 23:45
Here we go:
John McCain wants to outlaw encryption that the US government can't crack
All because you government are too paranoid to give the people the power to gather intelligence. So, was it worth it?
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Anonymous2015-11-19 1:14
Nations are dangerous Nations need to be more dangerous to counter the dangerousness of nations
Nice failacy
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Anonymous2015-11-19 1:16
Can we all have machine guns now?
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Anonymous2015-11-19 1:21
How else will we protect ourselves from all these people with machine guns
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Anonymous2015-11-19 1:32
4/inf
Nothings changed
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Anonymous2015-11-19 1:42
So don't worry, we will make those damn encryption ``algorithms'' (an arab/terrorist word) illegal in the next couple of years!
You know the jews are currently credited with inventing terrorism..? (only read this recently // bet most jews haven't realized yet either ^^ ) inb4 a few more little tweaks to history
People hate jews (est prior 1AD), people hate germany (post jew), russia, romans, america, middle east
don't hate jews, hate the countries that let them in..?
I can forgive, but maybe that's just me too... =.
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Anonymous2015-11-19 2:25
ISIS should just be honest with itself and convert to judaism
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Anonymous2015-11-19 2:58
>>26 Honestly sounds like a world I'd rather live in than a constantly monitored hellhole.
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Anonymous2015-11-19 7:56
serial killers
learn self defense
spies
who cares
money launderers
who cares
pedos
watch your kids
terrorist (sympathizers)
who cares. learn self defense and carry a weapon. If a lone shooter appears let him be taken out by 5 armed and trained individuals in the area.
drug dealers
they serve the free market
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Anonymous2015-11-19 8:23
You don't even need to learn self defense and carry a weapon if, for example, 1 out of every 10 people is a law-abiding armed person. Forget trying to spread police & government "protection" everywhere, encourage everyday people to be defenders.
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Anonymous2015-11-19 8:29
I don't get how liberals can keep up the ``only the police should be armed'' retoric while hating the police for killing unarmed black people every other week.
I don't get how the government can keep up the ``only the government should have privacy'' retoric while quietly dumping nuclear test contaminants in shallow pits in South Australia
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Anonymous2015-11-19 9:00
Or testing people for radioactivity after they've died by burning their bones and looking for strontium...
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Anonymous2015-11-19 9:02
>>44 Here in the US, that just sits in shipping containers in parking lots.
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Anonymous2015-11-19 10:26
mfw british doomsday device test results in catastrophic failure
What does that even mean? It's a friggin doomsday device
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Anonymous2015-11-19 10:35
Not to mention testing it as something other than a doomsday device... Did it fail to not be a doomsday device or what??
I saw a movie once where Frodo was hiding under a car, then sliced the Achilles tendon of his victim when she didn't know he was there. How could self defense protect against that?
spies
who cares
See my parable in >>6 for an explanation of why you should care.
who cares. learn self defense and carry a weapon. If a lone shooter appears let him be taken out by 5 armed and trained individuals in the area.
How will having a gun protect you from suddenly explosive Mohammed? Are you just going to shoot every sandnigger you see, in case they might have a bomb? I bet that the police will frown upon that.
drug dealers
they serve the free market
How is Paco serving the free market when he boils Juan in a giant vat of oil after castrating his son with a chainsaw and raping his daughter in front of him? Encryption only helps him share the evidence that he completed the job with his boss.
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Anonymous2015-11-21 21:16
We need to ban encryption so we can monitor all the refugees.
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Anonymous2015-11-22 0:26
The ISIS attackers in France didn't even use any encryption at all and they communicated with each other about their planned attack for ten months.
Putting government backdoors in anything won't change anything at all.
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Anonymous2015-11-22 8:33
>>55 Good, if we ban it now they will never have a chance to use it at all.
Before leaving his Morton, Illinois, home on the afternoon of October 13, the 19-year-old wrapped each knife's handle carefully with duct tape. He then pulled on a pair of grippy gloves. The one-mile journey to the public library gave Brown one final chance to rehearse the plan he had contemplated for the last two weeks. Five-inch blades jingled together in his backpack all the while.
FUCK, you're writing a fucking news article, not a shitty suspense novel.
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Anonymous2015-11-25 9:53
>>61 if dropbox never detected his child porn his life never would have gone to shambles and he wouldn't have wanted to go on a rampage. He would have just masturbated to kids while working in IT as a functional member of society.
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Anonymous2015-11-25 10:16
>>63 Is the man who uploaded child porn to a Dropbox account with his real name, registered to an email account with his birthday in it, to keep it safe and secure really cut out for IT? I mean, there was that US sailor who stored it on iCloud, but that's somewhat understandable, because his only job is to ... go down with the ship, I guess? Not an intellectual career to begin with.
That said, seems like CP arrests are much less dramatic than I had imagined. I always figured it would be a full on SWAT raid, where they establish a kill zone, take all your stuff, and burn your house down. This seems almost cordial on the part of the police.
if dropbox never detected his child porn his life never would have gone to shambles and he wouldn't have wanted to go on a rampage. He would have just masturbated to kids while working in IT as a functional member of society.
Dude, look at his photo in the article. That he's going to spend the next twenty or so years suffering in prison is actually the most marvelous part of God's plan for humanity. Nerds like him were created to suffer. That's their sole purpose in life, and helping them achieve that purpose by any means necessary is good and wholesome.
>>66 We shall commence the asperger contest about US justice system this once.
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Anonymous2015-11-29 16:21
Reminder that the US govt. trained, armed and financed Al-Qaeda and ISIS... And many, many other terrorist groups. Reminder that France and the UK did and do the same thing, too. And all of these govts. keep playing the victim card.
>>68 And in all their airstrikes until recently, they were careful not to damage IS oil pipelines and oil highways so as not to disturb the delicate terrorist businesses. Journalists made up bullshit excuses like "they are transporting oil in barrels mounted on donkeys" (as if such a smorgasbord of donkeys or mules wouldn't be visible and vulnerable as hell) or "the pipeline has already been destroyed during the war in Iraq" (not in Syria it wasn't, and satellite photos showed oil pumping stations operating safely on IS territory).
Boasting about bombing terrorists while preserving their financing sources intact is the modern American hypocrisy.
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents." U.S. Marine Major General Smedley Darlington Butler, one of only 19 people to be twice awarded the Medal of Honor - 1933. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Is_a_Racket
Nothing new under the sun.
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Anonymous2015-11-29 21:15
im big bad korean kryptonite hakka from da seven seas
>>70,71 Oh boo hoo, a bunch of shitskins got forced to pick bananas by a capitalist dictator a hundred years ago when they could have been forced to pick them for a socialist one. What a travesty.
>>75 At the very least, the US and France, i.e., the govts. and their populations, have repeatedly said so, after every attack. Don't cry the next time a random retarded faggot decides to blow himself, or at least assume your own responsibility in justifying the actions of your military forces. You support random terrorists and the bombings of random people, you pay the price. In fact, you should be grateful that they haven't done worse...