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ML = the language of the ignorant

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-03 20:17

Their ``superiority cult'' is founded on misconceptions and outright falsehoods.

No other programming language fans are so ignorant of where and when the tools they brag about actually originated.

The ML cult are like those people who think Julius Caesar and George Washington were black.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-03 22:21

None of that matters. At the end of the day, we are the ones that have modules.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-03 23:29

scheme needs ml modules. r7rs swung and missed

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-03 23:36

>>3
ml modules
How about ``Scheme needs Java lambdas'' or ``Scheme needs GCC tail calls''?

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-04 0:34

Yeah, it's time to face the fact that Python invented lambdas, functors, list comprehensions and functional style programming.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-04 11:31

>>4
no just a good module system

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-04 21:17

What's wrong with MatLab?

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-04 21:32

>>7
it has shitty modules, try to keep up

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-04 21:40

>>8
B-b-but I like them.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-04 21:51

i took an ML course, i thought pattern matching would mean data-driven programming like in SICP and PAIP but it turned out to just be a syntactical gimmick somewhat like a switch statement. there was no metalinguistic abstraction to be seen either, but lots of type checking which is supposed to magically solve all programming errors.

i don't know if i should be skeptical of this stuff but i guess it's the future if the powers that be says so and i should just shut up and do my homework

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-04 22:33

>>10
No, type checking is good. Python invented it this year.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-04 22:46

>>11
Thank you, Guido!!!

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-05 19:17

>>10
just be a syntactical gimmick
I'd like to see you unwrap three layers of constructors in one line, while binding 4 variables and guarding against 2 other variables. All in one line and without pattern matching.

foo (A (B (Frobnie _ "cator" c) _ d a) 5) b

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-05 19:55

>>13
Fuck stop taking the bait you retard.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-05 20:14

>>14
Fuck stop telling me what to do, retard.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-05 20:54

>>15
Fuckchop selling me butt voodoo, Gerard.

Mage.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-06 18:44

Those ML n00bs think types that can't be inferred are bad.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-06 20:57

ML
Literally who?

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-06 21:49

>>18
Figuratively what?

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-06 22:12

>>18
Where did you kids learn this expression?

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-06 23:42

>>17
t3h st00pid n00b3rs want the type errors to tell them where errors are instead of just finding it themselves!! Ha ha ha, what useless idiots!!

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-07 0:18

>>18
Literally who?
Allegorically you

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-07 0:32

>>22
Despicable me?

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-07 0:43

>>21
There are more types in heaven and earth, son, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-09 15:27

ML was basically TypeScript for Lisp, but only covered a small subset of the language.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-09 20:06

If Haskell is cancer, ML is the carcinogen.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-09 20:47

>>25
Can't argue much with that except to point out that it's not a strict subset, and the lambda calculus was placed in the type system instead of the run-time parts of the language.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-10 10:10

When your shitty toy language allows for useful type inference and your compiler for your shitty toy language does whole-program optimisation and your shitty toy language has a proper module system, then you can wipe your dirty penis on ML you son of a bitch

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-10 12:37

>>28
"ooh look at me, I use MLton I'm such a fag" - u

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-14 18:16

If you listen to ML fans, ML itself isn't an ML family or ML style language.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-14 18:20

>>30
yeah you can't even do machine learning with it

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-16 10:59

Everything boils down to Machine Language in the end.

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-16 15:33

>>32
checkem

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-16 15:34

>>32
U MENA META

Name: Anonymous 2015-10-29 14:44

ML ``programmers'' have a dangerous mix of arrogance and ignorance. They're Dunning-Kruger personified. I wouldn't trust those punks with my garbage.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 8:01

Robert Harper

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 9:06

Here is a picture of the MLton team at a meeting in Chicago in August 2003: http://mlton.org/Developers .. The first dude is actually getting paid Jane Street Capital levels of money so that's why he is actually smiling + going to this meeting means he is done with his PIP for the year.

The rest is smiling like they are posing for an autists anonymous emotion recognition seminar.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 10:02

>>37
Ew, they've got a curry-negro there.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 15:24

>>38
I think that is really nasty of you.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 20:04

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 20:19

>>40
That's some shitty blog writing there, and I'm judging by blog standards which are pretty low to begin with.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 20:28

>>40
I hereby certify this blog post Really Fucking Dumb™

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 20:32

>>40
So these triumphant mathemetical pure people, again, are just autistic and solipsistic.
LEL'd.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-03 21:10

>>41-43
I was thinking of accusing someone here of writing it, but I guess it is too stupid for even this shitpost haven.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-04 9:54

>>40
Haskell is popular enough that there are now blogs with hate agendas against it, heh.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-06 19:39

So wait, are we talking about MetaLanguage or MatLab?

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-06 20:07

>>46
MootLanguage.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-06 20:10

>>46
Markup Language.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-07 5:03

>>46
Machine Language.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-11 5:30

Are ML's just Lisps for retards?

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-11 8:29

>>50
Apparently.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-11 15:18

ML: Misunderstood Language

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-11 22:57

JSON makes Javascript the "acceptable Lisp."

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-11 22:59

XML: eXtremely Misapplied Language

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-12 23:26

sexprs make lisp the "acceptable lisp"

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-13 7:36

I don't get it.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-13 8:21

>>56
tanasinn

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-23 19:41

ML is the Money Laundering component of the bizarre grant embezzlement scheme.

Name: Anonymous 2015-11-23 21:12

What a bizarre, incomprehensible rant.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-09 0:18

How do you make the ML not be the language of the ignorant?
It's impossible, for if they were not ignorant, they would not be using ML.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-09 16:49

Machine Learning is for ignorant people, I agree.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-09 18:21

Metherlands.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-09 20:43

Julius Caesar first declared the start of the development of ML back in 43 BC.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-09 23:58

>>6
Without taking the types too it's just some syntax sugar. Just write some functors and you're done.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-10 19:39

>>64
Interestingly, ML modules are just syntax sugar for structs. 1ML is a dialect that unifies them into one syntax.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-11 0:25

>>65
True, but it's not really that interesting.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-11 3:40

>>66
hey, I checked your dubs for you, those are some really great repeating digits, keep up the good work!

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-11 19:32

>>65
This is really awesome news. I'll definitely look into this.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-11 19:34

>>66
Just like... your mother! Ha!

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-14 3:06

>>69
I'm okay with that.

Not trying to be shitty about 1ML btw, which is a fine thing. The module thing is just a DSL in scheme but the types are where it's at. The types are _why_ ML got the module system it did, scheme didn't have that perspective so it landed somewhere else. It helps to remember: MLs have the lambda calculus too, it's in the type system.

Name: Anonymous 2016-02-14 16:21

>>70
just a DSL in scheme
That's kind of the problem. RnRS is taken more as a suggestion, and each Scheme does everything in its own subtly different ways. The result is that the most portability you get is about thirteen RFIs.
This module DSL would therefore only work in one Scheme; as part of a RnRS it would at least have more luck as a standard that more than one implementation could use.

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