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Let's help each other fight this Brave New World

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-06-29 14:26

Complain about it, try to understand the reasons for it, and think up methods of combating it.

Name: Anonymous 2018-06-29 14:42

HALT AND CATCH FIRE

Name: Anonymous 2018-06-29 18:59

I tried. I wrote "Putin sucks" at the vk.com and got charged with terrorism. Barely managed to escape Russia. Good luck!

Name: Anonymous 2018-06-29 19:47

This is a nice thread and all, but it would better suited in /lounge/ since it has nothing to do with programming.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-06-29 20:19

>>4
When I said means of combating, I thought of technological means, mostly software. It depends on what the community makes of this thread.

Name: Hoi Polloi 2018-06-29 21:05

We shall overcome.

>>3
I tried. I wrote "Putin sucks" at the vk.com

V Kontakte? Molodets!

Name: Anonymous 2018-06-30 4:32

Social media: have a neutral/normie social media presence on facebook, twitter, etc (even if you have to fake it). Don't reveal your true thoughts and political stances. No social media = red flag. I wouldn't be surprised if other countries copy China's social credit system.

Name: Anonymous 2018-06-30 14:10

What programming language is this?

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-06-30 17:30

>>8
I'm experimenting website scanning with Python, because it's easy to use.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-06-30 20:17

Also, this thread is open to software request, if it isn't super complicated and doesn't require a graphical interface.

Name: Anonymous 2018-06-30 21:33

>>10
can you make an aggregated web-enabled disintermediate robust seamlessly granular "hello world"?

Name: Anonymous 2018-06-30 21:54

Text based adventure game in Malbolge.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-06-30 22:28

>>12
What purpose would that serve? This is something I've been noticing for a long time. This misunderstanding that difficult = worthwhile, because it somehow will impress others and that seems to be what programming skill is all about, right? Your post shows a complete lack of creativity or critical thought. It seems lik I have to spell things out for you guys, but I mean software that fits the theme of the thread, which you can read if you scroll a little bit upwards to the original post.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-01 1:08

>>13
It totally fits the theme of this thread, the text adventure game can be about dystopias and other shite.
Purpose? Have fun maybe?

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-01 16:59

>>14
Then not on a goddamn esoteric language created with difficulty in mind.

This could serve as counter-propaganda, I think. It's a nice idea if pollished a bit, and does meet the non-gui requirement I made. But still it'd have to use ncurses, which creates a learning dependency all the same, since I've never learned to use this lib, and that was my original meaning and intention, tha I would create programs that are very easy for me to make, based only on my current knowledge.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-01 17:00

Also, fun is overrated.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-01 18:22

Boomers like older languages with manual memory management because they think dealing with hardware issues is better than spending time solving meaningful problems that require higher levels of abstraction. Don't listen to dinosaurs when they tell you to learn C instead of Python.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-01 20:19

>>15
Then not on a goddamn esoteric language created with difficulty in mind.
Be more clear on your rules then, asshole.

But still it'd have to use ncurses
No, you would not.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-01 20:19

tha I would create programs that are very easy for me to make, based only on my current knowledge.
"I don't want to learn new things"

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-01 23:50

>>19
I don't. I already know enough. New rule is you can't specify the language, only the functionality you desire. And preferably something tangently useful, not simple entertaining.

>>18
I thought you would have sense, and I wouldn't have to spell everything out for you. But anyway, I guess I can be more clear. For now it's like this:

The interface will be the command line.

Preferably suggest something you know how to do, but don't have the time to implement (as a guide to the level of difficulty that I am expecting). Also, short development time is preferable.

Useful over unuseful. Entertainment for fun is to be considered useless. Propaganda utilities aren't. Always make the clear distinction.

That's it for now. I think this is enough to get the meaning. I'm concentrating on creating tools to interact with the internet without a browser, for now.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-02 6:33

>>15
depending on what kind of text adventure you want, you might not need curses. parser-based games could just as well use readline, but in practice you should rather just use Inform 7

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-02 6:38

write a dubs checker

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-02 17:39

>>22
((n%100)/11)%1==0 Edited on 02/07/2018 17:42.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-02 21:05

>>20
Make a type checker for the calculus of constructions. It does not get more useful than this.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-02 22:32

>>24
I've never heard of such a thing. What problem does it solve?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 0:07

>>25
Makes sure that your programs are not buggy crapware.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 0:57

%1==0

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 2:49

$ python
Python 3.6.5 (default, Jun 20 2018, 23:49:18)
[GCC 4.2.1 Compatible Android (4691093 based on r316199) Clang 6.0.2 (https://a on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> def f(n):
... return ((n%100)/11)%1==0
... >>> f(22)
True
>>> f(23) False
>>> f(133) True
>>> f(134) False
>>> f(132)
False >>> f(35455)
True

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-03 2:50

>>26
That can be done by simply being competent.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-03 3:05

Also, I would have to learn something I don't know.

https://cs.stackexchange.com/questions/41192/algorithmic-type-checking-for-calculus-of-inductive-constructions

Reading up on this it seems this is a problem that isn't solved yet, and going into it would constitute novelty search. I am not a scientist.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 3:30

Also, I would have to learn something I don't know.
Good, learn it then.

Reading up on this it seems this is a problem that isn't solved yet
Bullshit, coq does it fine, Agda does it fine, Idris does it fine.
There are readable implementations of it in under 100 lines.

As for the question, this is a totally different problem that is not required to make a normal type checker (and the solution is given in HoTT).

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-03 3:37

Good, learn it then.
How about no.

Bullshit, coq does it fine, Agda does it fine, Idris does it fine.

Then use those tools. Hey, I even heard Coq is open source, maybe you could, I don't know, copy its code? Why waste time on stupid challenges?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 5:02

How about no.
Why do you hate learning important things? Are you a tool?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 6:31

hey /prog/, what progs should I ram?

no, not those. give me different progs!

t. super hell

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 11:06

hax my anus

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 12:51

A program that given a function in the form \(f(x) = c_nx^n + c_{n-1}x^{n-1} + ... + c_0x^0\) shows a diagram in the console.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 13:06

>>35
a program that takes anus as input and outputs a haxed anus

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 13:36

Super hell

We need a network of giving away stuff, like sharing food clothing.
A way to end credit or discourage it (An alternative)
A way to envourage cryptos over "real" money

All this in a convenient andsmartphone/social network friendly way




"Money"and their priests is whats wrong woth the world.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-03 20:02

Image macro for fake quotes
Google play independent apk repository (I think a simple web-browsable dir) Edited on 03/07/2018 20:07.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-03 20:19

>>38
This is useful requesting. I'll need to plan things a bit.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-03 21:08

Alright, this is what I have so far.

1. Chat
2. Ripdroid
3. Society

I think this can be done very quickly, and then we can coordinate.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-03 21:10

4. Public Service Announcements

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-04 5:21

http://shellchat.herokuapp.com/client.js
http://shellchat.herokuapp.com/server.js

$ node client.js
To connect to a server, type /connect <address>.
/connect shellchat.herokuapp.com Commands are /nick <nickname> and /join <channelname>
/join channel user0634 has joined channel
/nick superhell
user0634 is now known as superhell
/join otherchannel
superhell has joined otherchannel test
superhell: test

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-04 17:05

>>38
A way to end credit or discourage it (An alternative)

rms simply says to pay in cash and thus not get tracked. If we could get an ATM machine that also accepts crypto (or only accepts crypto) and does the conversion at current market values, we could have something to work on. Nowadays most procedures for conversion from crypto to cash is full of gatekeepers, who require credit cards, bank accounts, etc, defeating its purpose.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-04 17:40

Project Ripdroid is on /lounge/

https://dis.tinychan.org/read/lounge/1530710042

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-04 17:43

>>45

Project please-install-my-android-malware-for-my-botnet is on /lounge/

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-04 20:22

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-04 21:04

>>47
Why are you insistent of having people install your software?

There's obviously an ulterior motive behind it. Some random person wouldn't just put time and effort into doing this stuff without there being some sort of catch. Probably added some sort of hidden keylogger or reverse shell or something.

If it really ISN'T malicious, you wouldn't keep on replying and getting defensive and insisting that people should install it anyway.

Besides, you don't seem to understand this board's culture of security and skepticism. Some people here don't even run fucking JavaScript in a browser.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-04 23:46

>>47
This isn't particularly difficult for me, and you don't seem to understand how Android works. I can insist on it because I know I'm right and it costs me nothing.

You're basing your opinions on the little you know of human psychology and getting everything wrong. I have a motive, sure, but it isn't what you've assumed.

On the matter, I thought it'd be self-evident, but ripdroid is about extracting apks from popular apps and hosting them somewhere else, thus cutting off Google Play and by turn making your phone more private, more secure. I was merely showing the way. It's impossible to do everything by myself.

There might be other ways of taking power away from gatekeepers, which is what I'm interested in.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-05 4:34

>>28
yeah you got me, it does work

(n%100)%11==0 ? Edited on 05/07/2018 04:35.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-05 5:01

>>49
response from person who isn't peddling malware: "whatever, bro"
response from person who is peddling malware: multiple huge walls of text getting really defensive

defensiveness = guilty

imagine if someone asked someone if they were a murderer
q: hey dude, you a murderer?
not guilty person: no, wtf

q: hey dude, are you a murderer?
guilty person: wtf no let me explain all the different reasons why I am obviously not a murderer here are 20 paragraphs explaining why I am innocent

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much,_methinks

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-05 12:16

>>51
Wow, so just by someone's reaction to an accusation you can completely disqualify them, and even get them convicted of it, without any necessary proving of the deeds on your part? Ain't that convenient?

You're just a moron. I wasn't defensive of myself anywhere, just wanted to see whether you guys had any excuse to distrust F-Droid also.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-05 12:46

SuperHell, what is your opinion on
KuberNetes
?

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-05 15:36

>>53
I'm unsure of it and have never used it. It seems like a technology for developers trying to get a product to their public. It seems to be used a lot on the "cloud" also (PaaS/XaaS). I think I've met it once when I was trying out RedHat's PaaS, OpenShift, but I've never run it on my own machine.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-05 16:34

>>54
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Name: Anonymous 2018-07-05 17:31

>>44
I was thinking on other alternatives to credit as in using a method of "saving" used in southamerica in low scale: In some places this is called "vaca" (cow)

Example: 6 people agrees to put 10 dollars for 6 months.
So each month you will get 36 dollars.
Each month, randomly,or by other method, one person will receive the whole "cow".
This goes on for 6 months.

Assuming everyone pays, In the worst case, you will be saving and get 6 months of saving at the end of the 6 months.

In the best case, you will get a loan with 0 interest.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-05 17:34

Fuck, not 36 but 60 dollars. Sorry for that brain fart.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-05 18:37

>>56
vaca/vaquinha exists and is basically crowfunding, same as kickstarter and others like it

Here is an example website that exists in Brazil:
https://www.vakinha.com.br/

I wasn't aware of this second part that you said, of giving the accumulated money randomly to one of the participants. The way I'm used to it, it is usually meant for a well-defined preestablished purpose, like building a house or church or bridge, or reforming a house, or even funding someone's life. There is no interest or obligation to repay.

Ever heard of "mutirão"?

https://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2016/06/14/rj-em-mutirao-moradores-constroem-com-r-5000-ponte-orcada-em-r-270-mil.htm?mobile

(RJ: in a mutirão, residents build with R $ 5,000 bridge budgeted at R $ 270 thousand)

The people fight back sometimes.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-05 19:02

It translates as "joint effort".

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-05 22:39

>>59
Like when you roll it too tight?

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-08 0:46

#use: perl rip.pl <vid id> <filename>
#e.g. perl rip.pl gOqblSqx_VI pigs.mp4

my $id = $ARGV[0];
my $filename = $ARGV[1];
my $json = `curl "https://hooktube.com/api?mode=video&id=$id";`;
my $url;

if ($json =~ /"18":\["([^"]+)"/){ #18 - 640x360 mp4
$url = "$1";
}

$url =~ s/\\//\//g;

`curl -L "$url" > $filename`;


This lets you download youtube videos from the command line.

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-08 13:26

Can a filtering proxy serve as a private name server? I think so. Instead of relying on hosts file, which requires root on most phones, ads and malware can be blocked through a private name server or a filtering proxy.

Filtering proxies can also remove malicious javascript from pages whenever they detect them.

Thoughts?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-08 13:53

>>62
Just block third-party requests and JS by default in your browser, it's much harder to write down a blacklist of everything bad in the world than to write a whitelist of sites you use and their permissions. The latter changes rarely while the former changes constantly; not that it would ever be complete in the first place. You can use the same approach on the network level, but it'll be much more involved because you probably won't have a quick way to add exceptions to your proxy unlike with something like uMatrix. But the focus on ads makes it seem to me like you aren't really looking for network level stuff but only browsers anyway.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-08 14:51

>>61
or you can use youtube-dl

Name: Super Hell !JM1IoNO1/U 2018-07-08 15:12

>>63
There are no good browsers in Android, no browsers that take extensions. Over 50% of internet traffic nowadays comes from mobile, and I ain't trying to simply solve my problems, but everyone else's.

But the focus on ads makes it seem to me like you aren't really looking for network level stuff but only browsers anyway.
There are ads in random apps nowadays, which also use the same scheme of google's (and others') ad servers, tracking, personalized "recomendations" thanks to the spyware, etc.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-08 16:07

>>65
I ain't trying to simply solve my problems, but everyone else's
You'll find that this is impossible because ``everyone else'' is a mental midget who will choose the shiny option that fucks him in the anus over anything else. Look at all the people who complained loudly about Windows 10, only to finally give in under some pretext. They simply don't care beyond trying to cheaply look like a rebel.

``Smart''phones are not salvageable. Blacklisting is like playing on the defensive, but trying to fix phones for the average man is playing on the defensive deep in enemy territory with both arms tied behind your back.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 6:58

>>66
``Smart''phones are not salvageable. Blacklisting is like playing on the defensive, but trying to fix phones for the average man is playing on the defensive deep in enemy territory with both arms tied behind your back
the only thing that would fix phones would be a FOSS/OSH phone with a normal linux distro (not android). I have high hopes for Dragonbox Pyra but IIRC telephony stack isn't yet written for it

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 9:19

>>67
Hardware vendors will make this impossible until small fabs are cheap enough, but I'm not sure whether this is even possible since fabs are the incarnation of economy of scale.

How fucked are phone-related protocols? It's basically impossible to write a sane web browser because the protocols there are distilled lunacy. Would phones face something similar?

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 9:26

>>68
It is illegal in many countries to write drivers for the thing that actually makes calls.

Name: Anonymous 2018-07-09 9:32

>>68
internet stack is sane when compared to wireless telephony stack

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