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Name: Anonymous 2013-10-21 7:13

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Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 8:42

>>24
using different pronouns depending on whether a person has a dick or a cunt is fucking stupid
I need this to know if I can masturbate to something. I'm sure as hell I'm not jerk it off to a dick, and I jerk it to Touhous. Why not call them ``she''?

Why not have different pronouns based on skin or hair colour?
Those don't provide any advantage over the basic gendered pronouns. Assuming you don't come from Tumblr, pronouns give you an image of what the other person might be able to do. ``She assembled an engine'' or ``he wore a pink skirt'' will provoke different answers than those provoked by the same sentences with swapped pronouns. Sure, those sentences may have a defined truth value in some liberal countries where males are faggots and you can't do anything about it, but we're not considering that case here.

Before you accuse me of being a sexist, I'm not telling all women not to assemble engines or telling all men to wear pants, but if you don't think those situations are unlikely, you should consult some statistics and confirm they're indeed rare.

On the other hand, using pronouns based on skin or hair color are not as useful. There is a high correlation between your biological gender (again, the ``non cis'' community are just outliers) and the things you usually do and do not do, but the same can't be said about people of different colors because of mixed races and Michael Jackson. Even if most niggers are undesirable people, you can refer to them as ``the nigger'' and it would be okay. You may argue ``the nigger steals bikes'' is too long and could be shortened to ``Nig steals bikes'', but racial slurs are not used as extensively as gendered pronouns are, because the latter are much more useful in pretty much everyone's daily life.

I hate SJWs too, but you don't have to go so far as to lose a useful feature of a language.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 9:07

>>26
I need this to know if I can masturbate to something. I'm sure as hell I'm not jerk it off to a dick, and I jerk it to Touhous. Why not call them ``she''?
That's a fairly petty excuse to justify an entire system of prejudice.

Assuming you don't come from Tumblr, pronouns give you an image of what the other person might be able to do. (...) Sure, those sentences may have a defined truth value in some liberal countries where males are faggots and you can't do anything about it, but we're not considering that case here.
And when the image doesn't fit your view of reality, shaming and homophobia. Nice.

Before you accuse me of being a sexist, I'm not telling all women not to assemble engines or telling all men to wear pants, but if you don't think those situations are unlikely, you should consult some statistics and confirm they're indeed rare.
Of course they are; my point is that they ought not to be. Given that a person knows how to assemble engines, the probability that that person is female should be approximately 1/2.

but the same can't be said about people of different colors because of mixed races and Michael Jackson.
First you justify gender by saying it gives you an idea most of the time (and you acknowledge there are non-negligible exceptions), then you use the exact same argument against using racial pronouns/qualifiers/slurs.

I hate SJWs too, but you don't have to go so far as to lose a useful feature of a language.
I don't think we have SJWs for the same reason. The relevant reason here for my hatred of them is that instead of doing away with all the gender bullshit (and thus simplifying society by a lot), they're adding on top of it (like Stroustrup on C) and making it even more of a defining trait of a person. You seem to hate them because they're threatening your gender binary worldview.

Name: Not >>26 2014-06-19 9:14

>>27
Given that a person knows how to assemble engines, the probability that that person is female should be approximately 1/2.
Typical pseudointellectual atheist retard. This is not some place where God flips a coin and chooses to endow you with the ability of assembling engines. You should try going outside, counting the number of female engine assemblers, compare it to the total of engine assemblers and draw a conclusion from that.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 9:29

>>24
Why not have different pronouns based on skin or hair colour?
Sounds nice! jews will be called אדון and goyim will be called עבד!
Niggers will be called Nig.

אדון Freeman
עבד John
Nig Brandon

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 9:36

>>28
FUCKY FU CK FUCKY FU CK FU CK FUCKYO FU CK
OU YO UF OU YOU YOUF UF UC YO UF
FUCKY UC KY FU FUC UC KY OU UC KY
OU OUFUCK CKYOU KY OU KY FUCKYO OUFUCK

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 11:11

>>28
Fuck off, snail-eating muslim nigger.

>>27
Given that a person knows how to assemble engines, the probability that that person is female should be approximately 1/2.
I'm sorry but that's not how probability works. Please read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernoulli_trial

I can't believe I'm saying this, but le Yannick.

First you justify gender by saying it gives you an idea most of the time (and you acknowledge there are non-negligible exceptions), then you use the exact same argument against using racial pronouns/qualifiers/slurs.
That's exactly my point. It makes sense to use gendered pronouns, but it doesn't make much sense to use racial pronouns. While the correlation between biological gender and daily life is strong, it's very hard to tell what a hair/skin color says about you.

You could go from American white to Indian shitskin if you used the right tools (sunlight and appropriate tanning), but most people don't go from assembling engines to having a cunt in a few days.

And when the image doesn't fit your view of reality, shaming and homophobia. Nice.
You seem to hate them because they're threatening your gender binary worldview.
I'm afraid we don't share the same point of view.
No point on discussing that, though I'll call you a cock loving nigger just in case.

Don't take that last line seriously, this is /lounge/ after all and it isn't /lounge/ without an insult like that.

Name: FFP 2014-06-19 11:39

Technically speaking, females are better suited for engine assembly as they have thin hands which allow for the fine work that assembly of delicate components requires, and also because they are more intelligent, smell better, and socialize better than the brutish piece of shit that is the human male.

Name: 33 2014-06-19 20:20

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 21:31

>>28,26
Fuck off with your arbitrary statistics that correlate only to themselves. That faggot isn't me, pseudo-intellectual* not ``pseudointellectual'' and I haven't seen anything of atheism yet here but atheist conservatives are the worst. Plus I said I am a male theist feminist shotgun owner you stupid virgin sexist loser.

>>31
I'd rather be racist than sexist/misogynist like you faggot. Your correlations are baseless and anti-human. You assume your arbitrarily selected statistics studies on whatever mra/pua sites mean anything regarding reality or actual ability. Male/female as sex, no gender. deal with it forever-virgin nobody. Whatever masculine males would never accept you anyways. Stay in your basement but it isn't like you can ever leave it in the first place.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 21:50

Gender faggots are the new creationists.

Think about it: They constantly assert their theory as the infallible truth, ignore almost everything that suggests otherwise, call cherry-picking and confirmation bias on everything they don't ignore while thumping ``studies'' that do the same thing except a lot worse and fall back to ridiculous insults (that aren't even insulting most of the time) when they don't get their way.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 21:53

>>35
You'd think that a place like this wouldn't have theamazingatheist tier faggots on here. You know where you belong, get out of here.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 21:55

MRAs/PUAs are the new new-atheists.

Think about it: They constantly assert their hypothesis as the infallible truth, ignore almost everything that suggests otherwise, call cherry-picking and confirmation bias on everything they don't ignore while thumping ``studies'' and ``evolution'' that do the same thing except a lot worse and fall back to ridiculous insults (that aren't even insulting most of the time) when they don't get their way.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 21:56

>>36
I'm deeply religious, pseudo-tolerant shotgun nigger. Stop proving me right.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 22:30

>>36
FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME

>>35
If you're >>26, I proved your shit to be logically inconsistent back in >>27. Feel free to argue, though.

>>34
I haven't seen anything of atheism yet here
You have to be kidding me.

atheist conservatives are the worst
Do these even exist?

Okay, be gentle with me for the last two lines, though, I haven't had much chance to explore the other cancerous anuses of the internet. It's possible that one of them has developed a large tumour filled with the disagreeable individuals you refer to as ``atheist conservatives'' and that I am entirely oblivious to the entire phenomenon (since I spend most of my time online here so I'm fairly sheltered). Anyway, I'm interested in hearing more about this.

male theist feminist shotgun owner you stupid virgin sexist loser
*grabs cock* *cocks shotgun*

Your correlations are baseless and anti-human.
No, no, the correlations are (probably) correct. It is the interpretation that is rather naive, silly, and ``anti-human''.

You assume your arbitrarily selected statistics studies on whatever mra/pua sites mean anything regarding reality or actual ability.
Wait... now I'm confused, what correlations are we talking about? I'm such a baka.

Male/female as sex, no gender. deal with it forever-virgin nobody.
Wait, are we... actually in perfect agreement on something?

Whatever masculine males would never accept you anyways.
I find a perverse pleasure in this line. In particular, it is only effective (at somewhat hurting one's feelings) if directed at a male with a strong belief in the gender binary.

Stay in your basement but it isn't like you can ever leave it in the first place.
Well that hurt my feelings.

>>33
>>33

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 22:42

>>39
I'm not >>26-san, but your ``proof'' has a reply only shotgun-kun has replied to, so far.

It is the interpretation that is rather naive, silly, and ``anti-human''.
It is only anti-human if you infer a natural ordering (and thus superiority/inferiority) from it. Inherent differences are no problem, so I don't know why you and your kind keeps turning it into one. Diverse systems tend to be more resilient, actually.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 22:51

>>40
Inherent differences
It is utterly unsurprising to notice statistically significant differences with respect to genders in a society of humans who learn almost everything from their environment and where the gender binary is almost law, and large inherent differences are not required to explain them.

Inherent differences are no problem, so I don't know why you and your kind keeps turning it into one.
If it weren't for gender, it might very well be that the inherent differences are very small compared to the standard deviation anyway.

Diverse systems tend to be more resilient, actually.
Rejecting gender and thus de-correlating things like ``being female'' and ``assembling engines'' only yields more diversity (since now instead of having only males who assemble engines and females who knit, you have males who assemble engines, females who assemble engines, males who knit, and females who knit).

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 22:53

>>40
What the fuck do you think I'm on about you fucking inferior? I'm superior, you're inferior with your fellow average normal inferiors with their trite banal trivial ``inherent differences'' are a bunch of inferiors. Diverse systems fucking pseudo-intellectual not applicable to humans and their doings and resilient to what(?) when it isn't even needed when you're sentient and free, stupid nigger. Your hippie earth will be the one needing resilience from us sentients. Fuck off with your hippie natural shit, this is ordering without natural as natural is below humans and superior-spirits as per the case you stupid dawkins nigger.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 22:57

It is desirable to have a fellow scheme programmer with a vagina for recursive sex.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 23:04

>>42
(Arjen Lucassen:)
Last night I had that dream again
My world was black as night
Plagued by visions of a future world

(Liselotte Hegt:)
Mr. L, did you take your meds?

(Arjen Lucassen:)
I sang about these dreams
Warning man of his demise
Wasted words that no one heard

(Liselotte Hegt:)
Won't you please relax? I'll make your bed

(Arjen Lucassen:)
Today I had that dream again
I roamed among the stars
On the wings of an amazing flight

(Liselotte Hegt:)
Mr. L, do we feel ok?

(Arjen Lucassen:)
To a place beyond our time
Where the sunlight doesn't warm
And colour bleeds into the night

(Liselotte Hegt:)
We may have to increase your dose today

(Arjen Lucassen:) I know the truth is out there
If you want to see
I know the truth is in here
(Liselotte Hegt:) Why should we believe you?
(Arjen Lucassen:) If you want to feel

(Arjen Lucassen:)
Now I have that dream again
I live beneath the waves
In a realm of grace and majesty

(Liselotte Hegt:)
Mr. L, can I ease your mind?

(Arjen Lucassen:)
In the distant shadows loom
Cold machines rise from the deep
In a world once proud and free

(Liselotte Hegt:)
Won't you free your thoughts, let it all unwind

(Arjen Lucassen:)
I hate to have that dream again
They live inside my head
Feeling everything I feel inside

(Liselotte Hegt:)
Mr. L, can you please be still?

(Arjen Lucassen:)
They speak to me in dreams
They can see all I can see
They have always been my guide

(Liselotte Hegt:)
You gotta hush now please, have another pill!

(Arjen Lucassen:) I know the truth is out there
(Liselotte Hegt:) Why should we believe you?
(Arjen Lucassen:) If you want to see
I know the truth is in here
(Liselotte Hegt:) Why should we deceive you?
(Arjen Lucassen:) If you want to feel

(Liselotte Hegt:) We are alone
There's no one there
You don't have to be afraid

(Arjen Lucassen:) Can't you see through this masquerade?
(Liselotte Hegt:) We are alone
(Arjen Lucassen:) We are all clones
(Liselotte Hegt:) There's no one there
(Arjen Lucassen:) I am so scared
(Liselotte Hegt:) You don't have to be afraid

(Arjen Lucassen:)
Last night I had that dream again
My world was black as night
Plagued by visions of a future world

(Liselotte Hegt:)
Mr. L, did you take your meds?

(Arjen Lucassen:)
They speak to me in dreams
They can see all I can see
They have always been my guide

(Liselotte Hegt:)
Won't you please relax? I'll make your bed

(Arjen Lucassen:) I know the truth is out there
(Liselotte Hegt:) Why should we believe you?
(Arjen Lucassen:) If you want to see
(Liselotte Hegt:) Why should we deceive you?
(Arjen Lucassen:) I know the truth is in here
(Liselotte Hegt:) Why should we believe you?
(Arjen Lucassen:) If you want to feel

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 23:07

>>41
Tendencies like that have been found in one day olds, but once again, this is being ignored because it doesn't fit into the silly social construct model which has absolutely no scientific basis at all and is just expected to be taken for the truth. If the gender binary is almost law, tell me, how and why did it become one?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-19 23:08

>>45
So that the room will be empty.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 0:00

>>45
Tendencies like that have been found in one day olds
citation needed
talking about ``tendencies'' not mentioned by the other poster
those one day olds in that study but not all studies
I've never heard of a study on one day olds, you mean one year olds?

what about science, you pseudo-scientific pseudo-intellectual?
I like how you expect ``scientific basis' to be taken as the truth. Social constructs are very real and mean many different things and the way we are talking about it is also very real and isn't about your lowly science. *if*. How and why is the average person (you) a retarded inferior who can't get anything right would be a better question.

>>46
Fuck off, minsky is a has been idiot.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 0:01

those one day olds in that study but not all studies
Or what I actually mean is not all one day olds which these idiotic professors and their studies on small populations or college students think they mean anything regarding 7 billion humans.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 0:35

>>47
Tendencies are differences. All differences in that area are statistical, I shouldn't need to explain this. Also, the Baron-Cohen stuff is a start, though I'm sure you'll find something within minutes that has reasonable doubts about one point which totally invalidates everything ever against your view.

I like how you expect ``scientific basis' to be taken as the truth.
Stop pulling things out of your ass and read properly. If you want something to be taken seriously and spent resources on, you better have a good reason to believe it might be true. I'm just hearing excuses and shitty insults so far. What suggests that all psychological differences between men and women are nurtured?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 1:07

>>49
You are talking about ``tendencies'' not mentioned by the other poster.
Tendencies like that
What tendencies are you even going on about as the poster made no mention of any particular set of tendencies

All differences in that area are statistical,
What are you even trying to say here? I'm question the value of those statistics.

baron-cohen
Fuck off with your kike and autistic brains

though I'm sure you'll find something within minutes that has reasonable doubts about one point which totally invalidates everything ever against your view.
ditto, faggot

Still nothing about those one day olds, I'm sure you made that one up.

I have my reasons and you have yours. I don't intend to trust academia and their methods just because of the label ``science''.

what suggests that all psychological differences between men and women are nurtured?
What suggests they aren't? What suggests they are? What suggests they are all nature? What suggests they aren't all nature? What suggests they are half and half? What suggests that all human males and females have such differences or that the average within a 7 billion+ population could ever be figured out? Hmm, probably too much for your ivory tower social-``scientists''. What do you personally get out of your beliefs or are you just an autistic libertarian with a desire to be ``correct''?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 1:24

>>50
Fuck off with your kike and autistic brains
Still nothing about those one day olds, I'm sure you made that one up.
I wished IHBT, but seeing how much effort you put into this shit, you are either dead serious and retarded or ultimately trolled yourself.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 1:30

>>51
What do you personally get out of your beliefs or are you just an autistic libertarian with a desire to be ``correct''?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 1:35

>>52
So it's dead serious and retarded. I should have known, it takes an idiot to demand the abolition of gendered pronouns. Take care, Ey-kunt, I'm sure we'll meet in the next thread.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 1:51

>>53
I am not this ``ey person'' you speak of and the abolition of gendered pronouns would be fitting for such a technical language as English. Your social beliefs mean nothing regarding linguistics. The only manly thing about you is the amount of cock that you take up your ass.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 8:38

>>1
Check my double.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 13:19

How do I epic bluetext?

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 14:20

FUCK OFF, DEGENERATE LOVERS
GOD BLESS AMERICA

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 14:37

>>39
it is only effective (at somewhat hurting one's feelings) if directed at a male with a strong belief in the gender binary.
I don't support nigging tumblrtards, I hate jocks, I'm a weak faggot who doesn't lift and I'm still a cis male. Being ``masculine'' is a social construct which forces everyone without a brain to be the biggest drooling retard who can throw an egg-shaped ball the farthest, not related to your sexual identity or whatever the fuck you gaylords are babbling abound.

You (and the tumblr gaylords) are wrong if you think having a dick has to do anything with fulfilling societal expectations. You could be a male who likes cutting hair and painting girls' nails, you still have a dick and you're a male. You could be a nigger jock who craves for dicks and plays football. You are still a male. I don't care about all that gender crap, being masculine is a cultural convention and it doesn't have anything to do with your having a dick and whatever the Social Jew Warriors are trying to push.

I do acknowledge the existence of those with gender dysphoria, but at the very least they should acknowledge their condition as a mental illness. They deserve the same respect any other person with a mental disorder does, but they shouldn't shove their condition down their throats.

I'm not as radical as ey-kun to ignore gender altogether because you faggots are arguing over social conventions, not over dicks and cunts. If you're arguing over social conventions being stupid then fine, but please don't bring your otherkin transethnic bullshit to the mix. It is possible to not be masculine and not be an underaged tumblrtard at the same time.

Name: Anonymous 2014-06-20 19:05

*fartz*

Name: Anonymous Alien 2014-06-20 19:16

>>58
Being ``masculine'' is a social construct which forces everyone without a brain to be the biggest drooling retard who can throw an egg-shaped ball the farthest
Americunt detected. Masculinity is all about who can best score points in the divine game of football (or as you degenerate fuckers call it, ``soccer'').

I'm still a cis male.
No, you're a beta faggot. The only reason you're alive is because nobody bothers to end your sorry life.

You (and the tumblr gaylords) are wrong if you think having a dick has to do anything with fulfilling societal expectations. You could be a male who likes cutting hair and painting girls' nails, you still have a dick and you're a male. You could be a nigger jock who craves for dicks and plays football. You are still a male. I don't care about all that gender crap, being masculine is a cultural convention and it doesn't have anything to do with your having a dick and whatever the Social Jew Warriors are trying to push.
The paragraph lacks a point. Well, aside from illustrating your ignorance and antisemitism.

I do acknowledge the existence of those with gender dysphoria, but at the very least they should acknowledge their condition as a mental illness. They deserve the same respect any other person with a mental disorder does, but they shouldn't shove their condition down their throats.
I acknowledge your retardation as a mental illness.

I'm not as radical as ey-kun to ignore gender altogether because you faggots are arguing over social conventions, not over dicks and cunts.
I don't ignore it, I actively reject and hate it.

If you're arguing over social conventions being stupid then fine, but please don't bring your otherkin transethnic bullshit to the mix.
That's part of the reason I hate gender (and identity politics in general).

It is possible to not be masculine and not be an underaged tumblrtard at the same time.
Underaged tumblrtards usually uphold gender as a defining trait of an individual; they seem to want a bit more choice over which gender, but they don't see anything wrong with gender itself or identity politics. The herd mentality is astounding.

Name: Anonymous 2016-07-17 4:46

>>60
No, you're a beta faggot. The only reason you're alive is because nobody bothers to end your sorry life.
"Cis male" implies nothing about sexual orientation or personality.

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