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Satire is the lowest form of comedy

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-02 17:00

Any idiot can make ironic comparisons, extended metaphors, and humorous allegories. It takes real intelligence to do observational comedy.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-02 18:41

Sarcasm is lower.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 4:27

Satire is just another way of saying autistic. Observational humor takes HUMAN intelligence, rather than the rigid "formulas" used by satirists. An observationalist has to actually be aware of cultural phenomena and how it impacts the every man. An ivory tower education and cushy apartment don't help there -- it can only come from human experience.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 8:30

>>3
The idea of symbolic language is just autistic, too.
We should go back to monkey grunts and gestures.
Replace command lines with gesture combos.
Mice with fingers.
Text with emoticons and voice recordings.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 12:00

>>4
Some of those ideas are good others not so much.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 13:01

>>3
of cultural phenomena and how it impacts
phenomena
it impacts

"Phenomena" is plural. So you should've written "of cultural phenomena and how they impact".

The singular of "phenomena" is "phenomenon", by the way.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 13:44

>>6
I hope something very violent happens to you.

Name: sage 2015-05-03 14:20

>>7
Why is that?

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 20:23

>>6
There is a plurality of phenomena that is contained within culture, singular. Therefore the sentence in question was worded correctly. Back to preschool, please.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 20:32

>>9
Yes, there is - too bad it never was mentioned in the sentence! It would've been worded correctly in the following case:

An observationalist has to actually be aware of the plurality of cultural phenomena and how it impacts the every man

However, as it stands, it is unequivocally wrong. So the only one in this thread who needs to return to pre-school is, I am afraid, you.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 21:09

>>10
No, asshole, the culture (singular) is what is being referenced by the word 'it'. It just so happens to contain a plurality of phenomena, but it is still an it. That is why you refer to a laptop as being a single object, even though it contains numerous other objects (including readily identifiable things such as fans). Still sure you want t refuse the invitation back to preschool?

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 21:13

cultural phenomena can be considered a singular reference (referred to as 'it') because the plural (phenomena) is contained within the singular (cultural). Many things can be included under an umbrella, but you still refer to the umbrella as a single object, right? Even if there are several people and animals standing under one umbrella?

Name: somebody else 2015-05-03 21:14

>>11
You didn't say culture. You said cultural phenomena. Phenomena is your subject, which is plural; cultural is merely an adjective. You used the wrong pronoun.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 21:16

>>13
Thanks. I was getting tired of explaining this basic mistake over and over.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 21:18

>>13
Wrong. You cannot separate the two words in that example. I'm not referring to all phenomena with a cultural facet to it, I'm talking about cultural phenomena as a single all-encompassing umbrella. Do you start calling a single umbrella by its plural term just because more than one person is standing under it? Or do you say "the people (plural) are standing under the umbrella (singular).

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 21:33

>>15
Then you would have said a culture of phenomena. If that were the case, culture, which is a mass noun that takes a singular verb and pronoun, would be your proper subject. But you said cultural phenomena, where phenomena, is your subject. This has nothing to do with semantics. This is pure grammar. You used the wrong pronoun.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-03 23:52

>>16
Wrong.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 4:53

Should satire be banned?

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 5:06

>>16
You know, you are basing your assertion on very thin ground. Your entire argument falls apart if cultural wasn't being used as an adjective in that sentence.

Unfortunately, it's very likely that is the case. What is clear to the educated among us is that the phrase cultural phenomenon is accepted into the common lexicon, and been assigned a meaning that is sufficiently more than the sum of its parts to make it a clause. Thus, the clause cultural phenomena is to be referred to in the singular. Because it's referring to a single subject (that has multiple parts, hence the plural form of phenomenon).

It's unreal I have to explain this to you. Are you American or what?

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 8:30

This whole thread went to shit after it turned out >>6 was too dumb to understand that 'cultural phenomena/on' is a word-pairing with enough inherent context to be considered a (singular) clause. Shame.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 8:31

check 'em

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 9:19

>>21 I love it when I can snatch the dubs right from under some poor-fool..

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 10:13

>>20
"Enough inherent context" is just some shit you made up. Your subject is plural, that is obvious to everyone, thus you made a mistake that you don't want to admit for some reason. Relax, nobody here knows you, you can admit mistakes safely.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 11:25

>>23
Enough inherent context" is just some shit you made up
No, the subject is a singular clause as per >>19's reasoning. Methinks you are the 66wrong99 one here.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 11:27

>>23
nobody here knows you, you can admit mistakes safely
It is not enough to be unknown, one must also be unjudged.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 11:34

>>24
The clause "cultural phenomena" is obviously plural, because the subject is "phenomena" as per >>16's reasoning. You are wrong and you have no arguments in your defense.

>>25
No. Unjudged ones do not have any incentive to admit mistakes. Just, argumented and informative judgement is necessary for the improvement of grammar on this text board.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 11:57

>>26
the subject is "phenomena
That would only be the case if 'cultural' was being used as an adjective in the statement in question.

But no. Cultural phenomena is a well known phrase that has become a clause due to the connotations that are present when those words combine being more than the sum of each word's connotations.

You always refer to a clause as a singular even if one of the words in the clause happens to be plural. I can't be any clearer about it than that.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 12:32

>>27
Do you even know what a clause is? How the hell is "cultural phenonema" a clause?

I've never seen somebody so wrong about something. It's quite honestly embarrassing. You need to stop.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 12:54

>>28
Do you even know what a clause is?

Do you?

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 12:56

>>28
You need to stop trolling.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 12:59

>>28
How the hell is "cultural phenonema" a clause?

Bandwagon effect.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:03

>>27
That is in fact the case, because 'cultural' is being used as an adjective in the statement in question.

Cultural phenomena is a well known phrase that still is plural and should be used as so.

You do not always refer to a clause as a singular. Example: "cultural phenomena are a well-known and rather uninteresting ground for trolling on text-boards".

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:11

>>29
Yes. It is a subject followed by a verb that may or may not contain objects. "Cultural phenomena" is just a subject (a plural one, by the way)

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:12

>>32
cultural phenomena is a well-known and rather uninteresting ground for trolling on text-boards
What? "Cultural phenomena" is clearly supposed to be referred to as singular, because BOTH words TOGETHER refer to a SINGLE overarching concept -- one that each word taken separately does not. The word phenomena isn't more important than the word cultural. The word cultural in not being used as an adjective. BOTH words TOGETHER are being COMBINED to refer to a single concept. So the fact that one word in this WHOLE two-word clause is in plural form does NOT mean the clause ITSELF should be refered to as a plurality.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:15

>>33
Oh, so you're still in remedial English in highschool. Don't worry, affirmative action and some kind of "no child left behind" movement should see you through even if you can't understand "complex" grammatical laws.

Thread over. Confused party is confirmed as a teenager.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:20

>>34
No, they refer to a multitude of concepts.

The word phenomena isn't more important than the word cultural

The confused party >>3 is confirmed as a teenager.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:22

This thread is hilarious, because retards are acting like if "umbrella" was two words ("um brella") then the "um" would be considered an adjective. If you wouldn't do something that retarded, why would you apply that reasoning to a word-pairing (a clause) that acts as some form of (singular) "linguistic umbrella"?

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:24

>>36
Dumbass. You're simply wrong. Read the thread.

Name: RedCream 2015-05-04 13:25

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Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:28

>>35
Please show me a definition of a clause that does not state what I just wrote.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:36

>>40
I didn't actually know what clause meant until about halfway into this thread/argument when I was searching for a word to encompass what I've been talking about (two-word pairing that means something specific). I couldn't find any word that fitted so I just used "clause" because it is literally impossible to understand wtf the definition of that word is getting at. All we can be sure of is it's something grammatical, so it fitted my needs fine.

Anyway, the word clause isn't important if it turns out to mean something other than what it was being used for. But any intelligent person can infer what MY definition of clause has been in this discussion. So, I'm wondering why you've latched on to the one misused word instead of attempted to address the points I raised....?

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 13:38

>>41
I always thought clause was the bullet points you put in a contract until U was googling around during this thread and stumbled on its use as some grammar gobbledygook.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 14:05

>>41
So, I'm wondering why you've latched on to the one misused word instead of attempted to address the points I raised....?
Because I've already addressed several of your points. You used "clause" heavily as your main argument, and you got several others to use the word unknowingly as well. I'm merely addressing it before you continue to spew it.

And again, this is not a matter of semantics or pragmatics. It doesn't matter what you can infer from the context of the usage. This is pure grammar: you used a plural subject (phenomena) and therefore should have used a plural pronoun and verb. "Cultural" is an adjective. Cultural cannot be anything else, it can only be an adjective, and in this case, it merely modifies the subject.

Name: Anonymous 2015-05-04 14:12

>>38
Dumbass. You're simply a troll. Read the thread.
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