I will acknowledge that pricing on eBooks is not ideal, but pricing is a different conversation--you can't just take what you want, when you want, because you disagree with what's being charged. An eBook is a luxury, not a right. If you can't afford it, too bad, but that's life. If you go to Target and they have a flatscreen television you like, but you can't afford it, can you just take it? No.
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Anonymous2014-06-19 15:38
An eBook is a luxury, not a right
Why? Why not just make it legal to download eBooks, then it would no longer be a luxury and this wouldn't even be a issue. Did you ever think of that?
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Anonymous2014-06-19 15:53
you can't just take what you want, when you want, because you disagree with what's being charged
What if the global economic system built by the United States of America constantly deprives me of my rightful wealth? Do I have a moral right to steal eBooks made in USA?
Then there will be no eBooks. Better limiting knowledge to those who can afford it, than leaving everyone equally ignorant.
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Anonymous2014-06-19 15:58
>>1 Your statements are all absolute and have no supporting arguments. So this isn't an attempt at a debate. You are just advertising your view point. Fuck off.
How can you assert this? Do you have any proof legalizing downloading eBooks would cause all production of eBooks to cease, or are you just pulling this out of your ass?
No incentive to publish knowledge. Peer-review journals will be forced to close and the only publications remain would be that of insane people, like Mentifex, who doesn't need to pass review.
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Anonymous2014-06-19 16:08
>>7 Why don't you move to India and get a Job, faggot
p.s. also don't download any ebooks or i will drone you
Indians are inborn losers bathing in mental depravity, without a will to change their society and better themselves. The Hinduism itself favors degradation and stagnation, compared to the civilized protestantism and judaism.
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Anonymous2014-06-19 16:16
>>8 The ability to legally download eBooks would not destroy all monetary incentive necessarily. Anyone can already download anything they fucking want and most people do. If the only reason for the illegality of downloading eBooks is to keep the incentive for publishers to exist maybe you can just create laws to force people to write books along with the laws forcing people from downloading them. More laws will surely solve the problem, right?
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Anonymous2014-06-19 16:16
>>7 Why are US and EU average salaries 5-10 times higher than in the rest of the world? Are Americans the best workers in the world? But they are for the most part glaringly uneducated, obese, and spend most of their waking lives in a drugged condition. I don't belive that the average Ammie deserves his salary more than I do. But no single individual can change the global slavery system built by the US, therefore it is only rightful for non-Americans to steal any American property whenever they can.
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Anonymous2014-06-19 16:22
>>13 Americans artificially keep their wages high through legal measures like minimum wage laws. They also create laws to keep foreigners from competing in the domestic market to protect their wages. If Americans really wanted to stay true to their free market principles they should allow all Mexican labor to come to America and compete against them on an open market, but they won't because they know Mexicans can work cheaper and better than them. Fucking fat ignorant sons of bitches should all be fucking killed.
Why are US and EU average salaries 5-10 times higher than in the rest of the world?
Because US and EU residents are hardworking people, while Indians are lazy slackers. If you don't like your salary, work harder and you will get promoted.
Because US and EU residents are hardworking people, while Indians are lazy slackers.
BULLSHIT, why not allow Indians to move to America and let them compete freely against "hardworking" Americans then? Because you know Americans are lazy pampered babies who would have their salaries driven down. Statistics prove immigrants in America are more successful and have a higher chance of class mobility than natives.
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Anonymous2014-06-19 16:32
>>15 Fat, McDonalds-munching Prozac and Xanax addicts who can't spell "you're" or "it's" in their own language are "hard-working people"? That's a piece of baloney if there ever was one.
If you go to Target and they have a flatscreen television you like, but you can't afford it, can you just take it
Has anyone ever told you that shitty analogies suck? This one sucks because making a copy of a TV set is orders of magnitude more costly and time-consuming than making a copy of a file.
>>1 Technically, you could threaten someone, then take it.. And then depending on who you are, the police may come along and threaten you back.. I still find it humorous that we can justify taxes =) it's just theft in lieu of punishment
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Anonymous2014-06-21 23:19
Do the top n% even pay as much tax per dollar as a welfare recipient..?
In a recent article entitled, “Pentagon preparing for mass civil breakdown,” by Nafeez Ahmed, at the Guardian, we learned that a new “research programme is funding universities to model the dynamics, risks and tipping points for large-scale civil unrest across the world, under the supervision of various US military agencies.”
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Anonymous2014-06-22 4:01
National Defense Education Act.. The only reason americans are educated at all?
If you can't afford it, too bad, but that's life. If you go to Target and they have a flatscreen television you like, but you can't afford it, can you just take it?
I've seen this tossed out a couple of times--that if you're a writer or a filmmaker, you should just be flattered that people want your stuff, and you should take pirating as a compliment. Well, screw that. Writing and filmmaking and art are great jobs, but they're still jobs. A self-published author still has to sit down and proofread and code and release and track an eBook--these things take time. Expecting people to forgo payment because you wanted something and didn't want to pay for it? You're an asshole. And if you're an artist, you're an even bigger asshole, because you lack empathy for fellow artists. But, look, if you're utterly convinced that artists should just be happy to create, I'll make you a deal: I'll do my job for free, but you have to do yours for free. We'll circle back in a month and see how that went.
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Anonymous2014-06-22 5:14
>>56 If you can't afford it, too bad, but that's life. If I go to your home and you have a flatscreen television I like, but I can't afford it, can I just take it? Yes. Yes I can.
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Anonymous2014-06-22 5:20
happens /g/, goes down in mah hood /g/ goes down in yo hood /g/ happens /g/ happens to us all /g/ cops aint gonna do shit /g/ got the goods /g/? droppin niggas /g/?
Is this one of those, "Is is right for me to copy bytes of data, use for means of knowledge, and decide whether I should give monetary incentive to the authors for having published the book?" debates?
If so, short answer: If you want to support their work, do it. If not, make a proper review why not, and make sure it public, like Amazon reviews.
And no, knowledge is not a privilege. It cost the reader just as much as the author to share and use that knowledge.
>>70 You can make all the knowledge you want. You just can't steal other people's hard work.
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Anonymous2014-06-23 4:31
Theft is Haraam (forbidden) according to the Quran, Sunnah [sayings of Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) ] and Ijmaa’ (scholarly consensus). Allaah, the Most Exalted, has condemned this action and decreed an appropriate punishment for it. The Hadd [i.e. the legal punishment prescribed by the Sharee'ah (Islamic law)] for a thief is to cut off the thief's hand. Allaah Almighty Says in the Noble Quran (what means):
“[As for] the thief, the male and the female, amputate their hands in recompense for what they earned [i.e. committed] as a deterrent [punishment] from Allaah. And Allaah is Exalted in Might and Wise.” [Quran 5:38]
The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) said:
“The hand (of the thief) should be cut off for (the theft of) a quarter of a Dinar or more.” [Al-Bukhaari]
The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) cursed the thief because he is a corrupt element in society, and if he is left unpunished, his corruption will spread and infect the body of the Ummah (Muslim community). He sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) said:
“May Allaah curse the thief who steals an egg and has his hand cut off, or steals a rope and has his hand cut off.” [Al-Bukhaari]
What indicates that this ruling is definitive is the fact that a Makhzoomi noblewoman (from the tribe of Makhzoom) stole at the time of the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) and Usaamah Ibn Zayd may Allaah be pleased with him wanted to intercede for her. The Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ) became angry and said:
“Do you intercede concerning one of the Hadd set by Allaah? Those who came before you were destroyed because if a rich man among them stole, they would let him off, but if a lowly person stole, they would carry out the punishment on him. By Allaah, if Faatimah Bint (daughter of) Muhammad were to steal, I would cut off her hand.” [Al-Bukhaari]
This is the ruling of Allaah concerning theft; that the hand should be cut off from the wrist joint.
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Anonymous2014-06-23 4:36
Al-Qurtubi may Allaah have mercy upon him said: "All the scholars said: The hand should be cut off from the wrist, not as some of the innovators do when they cut off the fingers and leave the thumb."
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Anonymous2014-06-23 4:49
"And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched." (Mark 9:43)
I think a gas chamber in their honour should be commissioned, on behalf of future children They can slap a No smoking sticker on it for their good work =)