The programming mindset

How can I know if I'm too stupid for programming/engineering/maths?

Is it true you need a good memory and be good at just swallowing lots of apparently random technical stuff?

For example BSD sockets. To "learn" them I guess you just have to memorize all these syscalls, the whole connection model. What does it even mean in a deeper sense? I don't know.

At one point you just have to have faith and be good at remembering lots of formulas, how do you do that

trial and error.

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>>2

So if you keep doing it eventually you'll be good? I guess that is how homeworks work, just pure brute force repetition.

Also I'm worried that if I spend the rest of my life remembering random random shit like "public static void" I will turn into robot. How is confidence even possible, how do you build confidence, reality is constant chaos and randomness, how can you claim to have any control over any of it if not through self-deception, are confident people confident because they constantly please people by being normal?

programmers are some of the stupidest people in the world

you are not too stupid to program

>>5

thanks for your answer

can you give examples of things that aren't stupid?

maths? sports? literature? i don't know

my short term memory isn't as good as my cleverness.

Also, there's few things I try to memorize because I know I'll just forget them. Your brain has a good way of automatically remembering things that are important.

>>4

public static void

Java is quite complex. But it's not impossible to get to a level where you can use it. What you mentioned should be second nature. Try getting some programmer friends to explain this stuff to you. It's hard to learn on your own. Also, don't get bogged down in low level programming unless you actually need to do it. Use more powerful languages if you can.

you need to be good at swallowing lots of semen. you need to enjoy the pleasure of being cummed inside.

the getter mindset

You were wrong thinking programming is akin to math or engineering. It's really a joke and almost anyone can do it. Like violin or the piano. Math is like singing--to be good you need inborn talent.

It will all come clear when you achieve satori.

>>9
OP here
I took a java course last year, I learnt all that stuff, all the design patterns etc i dont know if should work as java programmer. i guess it is not so bad a language once you understand it. lots of people struggle to learn it...
but i hear it has reputation for being terrible. definitely somewhat cumbersome at times. a modern-day cobol

>>6

Things aren't stupid. People are stupid.

That being said, the field which requires the most brilliance is theoretical physics. The true test of a person's cleverness is his ability to create mathematical abstractions from observations of the physical world.

>>15

I think I might be too dumb for sciences, math, etc. 3 years ago I got a 74% in Calculus III. I think I was not fit enough, it helps if you are a fit rich kid with confidence not always stressed then you can memorize matrices more easily.

What is the point, how do I stop being an idiot, what is the mindset of people who aren't idiots, do you have to trust authority, why would I do that, what is the point, when you take Calculus half of it is remembering random formulas, is that what engineers do, remember formulas? Where is meaning to be found in all this ? If so you can't find happinness or purpose in engineering and you should be also sycophant on the side?

>>16

when you take Calculus half of it is remembering random formulas, is that what engineers do

I agree, you are not fit for sciences.

>>15
literal /r/science nigger who learns his ``physics'' from tv showers detected.

>>17

But I'm serious about the formulas thing, for example in Calculus I I had to learn and remember product rule, sum rule, quotient rule, etc. etc. In Calculus II had to memorize the integration by parts formula. In Cal III had to memorize Jacobian matrices. A whole bunch of formulas. Sure they have proofs and I can read them if I want I am all good with that but why should my purpose in life be to just memorize a bunch of results? Shouldn't my job be to come up with new results? If my job were to remember formulas I could have been a book instead of a human being. Memorizing and applying formulas never made anybody happy or fulfilled or anything, or really gain any deeper understanding of anything. I don't want to be a robot. I thought I could gain fulfillment from pursuing this maths/CS/etc stuff because it is supposed to be an "intellectual accomplishment" and useful for solving problems and whatever but I guess I'm too stupid for it

>>19

all science is remembering/applying formulas

Are you really that dumb? It is like saying "programming is so much memorizing because you have to memorize all those syntax, functions etc".

All science is remembering butts all the time.

>>20

not science, just high school science/math course. i guess they are supposed to prepare you for doing more hands-on stuff later. i guess i should be more patient

>>14

It's not really terrible, the thing about Java is just that you are writing shitloads of code for the simplest things. Then again, many imperative languages have this. Python is quite nice because it supports both the imperative and the functional style to some extend. If you really want to write short and effective code try Haskell.

>>5
Wouldn't it be possible for a really smart guy to completely revolutionize it? Physics used to be easy as shit until we discovered how things actually work. Maybe CS is easy as shit until we discover the enormous complexity which is possible.

Maybe CS is easy as shit until we discover the enormous complexity which is possible.

Well duh. It's all just ones and zeros arranged into sequences.

>>20
Yes, he is really that dumb. This board is predominantly American, so there's nothing to be amazed at.