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(unironically) rewrite everything in Java

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-15 21:52

the entire computer security industry would go bankrupt overnight.

C-niggers think they are so clever for messing with memory pointers in 2019 when that kind of drudgery has been completely automated for decades. it's like thinking you're manly for building a skyscraper by moving bricks with your bare hands instead of using a crane.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-16 3:49

Pro-Java trolling aside, it does blow my mind when reading security bulletins about yet another buffer overflow in
$current_year
. Most of the industry still thinks that C is the only suitable language for systems programming, and if you ship insecure code it's just because your programmers aren't good enough.

But if seasoned C hackers are producing bug-ridden code time after time, maybe it's the tools that are not good enough.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-16 3:57

>>2
Even worse, most of these buffer overflows would have been caught if people would learn to use their tools properly. Turn on almost all of the compiler warnings, use static analyzers, sanitizers and fuzzers in testing. Assert all of your preconditions and postconditions.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-16 14:36

Java is too slow. Imagine waiting 370ms instead pf 355ms for a http request.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-16 17:35

>>4
Performance isn't Java's issue, it's memory usage. JVM uses just too much

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-16 21:11

>>4,5
More RAM = more swapping = SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-16 21:33

>>3
people are retarded and think they're not so they shouldn't even be allowed to bypass security checks.

the costs of buying more RAM are far less than the costs of a data breach.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-16 22:26

Why not use Ada or Rust instead of Java?

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 1:54

>>8
or D?

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 2:19

>>9
Muh D

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 2:37

Muh Dubs

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 4:14

>>8
because those are meme languages for academics and anime pfp niggers. the JVM has been used in industry for decades by real engineers.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 4:50

>it's like thinking you're manly for building a skyscraper by moving bricks with your bare hands instead of using a crane.
C is like laying bricks by hand to build a skyscraper; Java is like using a crane to haphazardly pile heaps of bricks into something vaguely resembling one.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 6:14

C is like designing bricks and then designing brick-laying automations and then ordering these automatons to build something. Java is creating an organization to procure elaborate contracts to build brick-laying machines and implied bureaucracy overseeing the machines along with tech support and PR teams.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 6:40

C is like going to Indonesie and byuing

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 8:43

india

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 9:50

>>16
curry niggers are stupid, but at least they know they are stupid so they don't arrogantly try to manage memory by hand.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-17 9:54

>>17
enjoy, your ban

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-18 2:21

>>12
JVM is widely used in industry. But its usage is unevenly distributed. There are still many applications where security is crucial, but using something as heavyweight as JVM is not an option.

To fill those niches we need something with comparable performance and runtime requirements as C, but safer and stricter.

Ada is a dead language. D seems to have hit a wall. Rust: maybe, if the designers don't fuck it up. Rust also needs more commercial supporters, and a well known `anchor' project that helps it gain recognition. Using Rust to build bits and pieces of Firefox is not enough.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-18 5:54

>>19
Swift has a better chance of filling that niche than Rust. Rust is C for nodevs who guzzle soy. They don't know shit about security because they are niggers.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-18 8:23

>>19
Security isn't crucial.

>>20
Swift probably won't even replace obj-c.
The guzzling soy part is true, but there are many highly skilled c++ devs who are into rust.

Everything is fine with the world.
If new languages were better businesses would use them to gain advantage.
Who knows, maybe some are?

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-18 14:14

>>21
Security isn't crucial.
How are you going to run you're are programs when the power grid goes off?

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-18 14:28

The power grid probably is only controllable from the facilities, which means security is solved with guns and doors, not software.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-18 14:30

I've got solar panels

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-19 0:15

probably is only controllable from the facilities

I have bad news for you

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-19 2:14

>>18
enjoyee, your lifetime

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-19 7:54

>>25
You're right they probably want to control the grid centrally.
Even then security can be solved with networks and private lines.
Only the outer node on the network has to be secured.
It shields what's behind.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-19 9:26

Write everything in Go, it's like D but not Autistic

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-19 15:01

>>27
Only the outer node on the network has to be secured.
aka, crunchy on the outside, soft in the middle

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-21 11:44

I just want to thank you for posting this thread, I’ve always felt alone and like I was a freak because of that fact I’m retarded and now I am nearly in tears because I feel like I’m not alone and this thread has helped me see that!! Thank you so much!!

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-21 11:54

>>30
You are Retarded.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-23 19:25

java is bestlang. everyone knows this. that's why its #1 in TIOBE Index for 50th straight year.

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-24 4:37

>>32
java is extremely useful. if you have to only be good at one lang/environment, then it's java all the way down. you can write firmware for SIM cards and Minecraft and ransomware in it.

the people who hate on java are the people you generally want to avoid as much as possible:
webdevs
unixbeards
anime avatar trannies
FPfags

Name: Anonymous 2019-06-24 6:52

I work in security and used to do a lot with Android shit in previous work. now I'm auditing a Java codebase with a lot of SOAP shit. let me tell you: Java does not solve shit when it comes to security. no buffer overflows doesn't mean no vulns

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