The "profit" is in preventing the child sexual abuse inherent in the production of CP. Not everything that's outlawed is outlawed because someone gains financial profit from it - for example murder and rape are outlawed because they harm people, not because murder and rape hurt someone's profits.
How can America be a free country, if it outlaws Child Porn, just like Russia, North Korea and China?
Isn't this kind of a "Hitler ate sugar" argument? Russia, NK, and China also have armed forces, a government, and a population. Does that mean any country with one of those things is a totalitarian dictatorship? What sets America apart as a "free country" is that criticism of the government is protected speech, which isn't true in places like North Korea.
CP will probably eventually be legal to possess. Already I've seen 8-11 year olds plenty of them shaking and twerking ass on YouTube, some with at least a million views. The normies bitch about it (but there's more positive comments about desiring these girls), but they also bitched about the homoqueers, the general whores, porn legalization, ect. I've since accepted that it's next to come down the pike.
Love is love, age doesn't matter! The government should not only lift these unjust laws, but it should provide reparations to the poor pedophiles deprived of a means to express their sexuality, as well as damages to the children who could have been earning money through their art. In the future when capitalism is finally dead and buried, we will look back with horror at the humiliation we are currently visiting on our fellow man.
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>>72016-10-03 21:47
Additionally, I would like to humbly propose that the concept of consent should not apply to any trans* or queer person, including children, and any person should be able to have sex with them, at any time, regardly of any objections or concurrences the trans* or queer individual may have. As they are demanding the world recognize their fetish, it is unfair that the world not be able to forcibly impose it's fetishes on them. Such an inequitable exchange is capitalistic in nature and cannot be allowed in a truly egalitarian society. Besides that, to refuse sex just because someone views them as an object to be used up and disposed of is kink-shaming (as is all transphobia and pedophobia and arachnophobia in fact).
The "profit" is in preventing the child sexual abuse inherent in the production of CP.
Then why Hentai and 3d rendered CP are illegal too? Also, for some reason there is no child abuse, when one forces his children against their will to do chores, but when some child agrees for a photo-session, he enjoys, that is child abuse.
Then why Hentai and 3d rendered CP are illegal too?
Hentai just means anime pornography, the term doesn't imply anything pedophilic. Rendered videos would be a problem if they're realistic enough to be indistinguishable from the real thing, as it would require the government to closely monitor the producers to make sure no actual children are being harmed. It requires a lot less resources to just ban anything that looks like CP. Furthermore, the government just doesn't want to do anything that normalizes pedophilia.
Also, for some reason there is no child abuse, when one forces his children against their will to do chores, but when some child agrees for a photo-session, he enjoys, that is child abuse.
Children can't even legally consent to financial transactions, what makes you think they can consent to sex? Children often lack the maturity to properly understand what sex entails, and even if they do, they lack the social power to say no if a parent tries to push them into it. And yes, forcing children to do things against their will is a normal part of parenting, however that's what things like child protective services are for, to make sure the parents aren't actually forcing their children into anything harmful.
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Anonymous2016-10-04 2:31
>>12 Sex isn't special and there isn't anything inherently harmful or bad about it, and there isn't very much that anyone needs to understand about it. It's harmful because it violates social norms and everyone starts telling the children that they have been defiled and their lives are now ruined. For instance, children in our culture would be traumatized if they say someone cut out another person's still-beating heart, but Aztec children were not. If the cultural values surrounding sexuality were different, then they wouldn't be harmed.
That said, there is also nothing beneficial to sex with kids for them, and pedophiles are a tiny minority who don't need to be catered too, so there isn't really any need to change anything except how "victims" are created. As society becomes more tolerant of teenage and child sexuality, and moralizing busybody women who run stupid charities because they have nothing better to do die off, it will probably become normalized in a few hundred years time as people simply stop caring.
>>13 Sex is inherently powerful: it has a strong effect on the mind and the body. It has healing powers that heal the mind and body. However when it is abused, sex will destroy the mind and can also destroy the body.
The thing about sex with children is that it is extremely hard for the people to gauge how much damage is being done, assuming that there is damage happening. The child won't understand the meaning and consequence of what's happening and they certainly cannot explain in what ways they're being hurt - the best explanation they can give is along the lines of "my peepee hurts when you touch it". You cannot normalize sex with children because children are simply not ready for it: not mentally nor physically.
Pubescents are a different matter. Pubescent people have a greater consciousness about what's happening. They will have experiences, knowledge and reasoning abilities that can support the meaning and consequence of sexual activity. Pubescent bodies are more accommodating to sexual activity even if it isn't quite mature. None of this is true for children.
>>23 A surprising amount are actually far right or Nazis. Many resent the LBFAGT groups for throwing us under the bus and outright hate feminists and the Marxist garbage that calls us the oppressors. Still a minority, most just want to be left alone, but more than left-aligned pedos.
I'm not sure what the boy pedos think or what the deepweb pedos think though, the former speak in incomprehensible gibberish and the later are almost invariably barely literate retards and I haven't been involved in that crowd since I was in my teens.
>>26 I didn't say all, I said a surprising amount, and I excluded boy pedos from that.
>>26,27 NAMBLA always insisted they were pederasts, not pedophiles. The difference is lost on me though. Anyway, they have been little more than a static website for over a decade now. I'd guess that, like the KKK or US Socialist Party, 95% of their members are FBI agents.
>>28 No, I don't have the emotional energy to feel much of anything anymore, much less get involved in a political ideology that requires so much activity. I'm just waiting to die.
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Anonymous2016-10-06 17:18
>>31 Why are you waiting to die? It sounds like you ate depressed. Man up, Pedo-kun, no one likes a crybaby.
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Anonymous2016-10-06 17:37
>>30 Yeah that's a nice spin. People should start a "Stop the hate" pro-pedo campaign. I'm surprised the lefties still haven't done something like this. Stop the prejudice! LOL
>>33 You seem to be forgetting the fact that leftists are opposed to rape in all of its forms.
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Anonymous2016-10-06 21:01
>>35 But pedos also push the argument that it is consenting. Also leftists are encouraging children to question their sexuality before puberty.
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Anonymous2016-10-06 21:16
Leftists don't want to legalize pedophilia, that would be antifeminist. It will never be allowed for a man and a girl, only men and boys, women and either, or shitskins and white children. It isn't about sex for them, it is about degrading straight white men.
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Anonymous2016-10-06 21:38
>>35 Except when they apologize to their rapists because they don't want to be racist.
>>40 Evolution. The dumb ones get caught and arrested, thus prevented from breeding. The smart ones evade the best and brightest detectives and vigilantes that society sends after them. This is leading to a super-intellegent pedophile master-race that will one day rule us all.
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Anonymous2016-10-07 3:04
>>39 Not really, they're both deviations from the norm, but homosexual activity isn't harmful, not to the extent that pedophilia is. It's not the job of psychologists to enforce normality, being "unusual" isn't a mental illness, but being a danger to society is.
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Anonymous2016-10-07 3:13
>>43 Being a danger to society isn't a mental illness, and psychologists are no more experts on what a danger to society is than anyone else. The classification of one as an illness and the other as not is arbitrary. Psychology is normative to it's very core, unless you think that there is some magical list of things that details what is and isn't mental illness, it has to be determined by what people do in an inductive manner, with those not falling in some percentile being classified as mentally ill. If 95% of people were bipolar, that would be the normal condition, and the remaining 5% would be classified as non-responsive.
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Anonymous2016-10-07 4:56
>>40 Pedoshits have lower IQs. It's a proven fact.
Pedophiles tended to have lower IQs than controls and showed significantly more impairment on all measures
I think the reason is that pedophiles' brains did not develop in step with the rest of their bodies. They are kids mentally and wish to go back to that time (see: Michael Jackson) because it was the only time they fit in. Pedos get lumped in with the other class of people who act like children--noble autists--and sometimes incorrectly get praised for autist superpowers they do not actually have.
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Anonymous2016-10-07 5:36
>>45 Couldn't this be seen as support of >>42's theory? The smart ones stay in hiding so they're never involved in these sorts of experiments.
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Anonymous2016-10-07 6:05
>>45 Take any group in prison and I'll bet they have a lower IQ than their non-incarcerated counterparts though.
Or even just take any group, lock them in a cage with feral negros for a few years and I'd bet that they score lower than they would before they were imprisoned.
And the abstract says they were in for non-violent and non-sex offenses, so they were probably CP offenders. With all the security tools available, anyone caught is probably dumb regardless of whatever fetish they have.
It's fucking weird that the stereotype of pedophiles is simultaneously the mouthbreathing lardass hiding in bushes to jump out and expose themselves and also manipulative geniuses always scheming and infiltrating groups with brilliant plans to convince thousands of people of how wonderful they are so they can fuck kids. It's almost as if this is just a directed witch-hunt that tries to encompass as wide of a scope as possible, aimed to make all (white) men look like creeps no matter what they do so as to alienate them from children, even their own. Now, now, now, I wonder who could want such a thing?
Pedos get lumped in with the other class of people who act like children--noble autists--and sometimes incorrectly get praised for autist superpowers they do not actually have.
Don't kid yourself: autists are retards. They aren't Archimedes, they are Chris-chan. They don't do anything brilliant, they sit on their ass and spend their parent's money on video games and toys. I'd bet that pedophiles on the whole have done more for society than those helpless, worthless failures.
Take any group in prison and I'll bet they have a lower IQ than their non-incarcerated counterparts though.
First sentence of abstract:
Compared 15 heterosexual, 14 homosexual, and 10 bisexual male pedophiles (mean age 39 yrs) to 14 nonviolent nonsex offenders
The study compared pedo inmates with non-pedo inmates.
And the abstract says they were in for non-violent and non-sex offenses, so they were probably CP offenders
The study said the ones the pedos were compared to were non-violent and non-sex offenders. So violent offenders were included in the pedo group. For all we know there were some """computer geniuses""" (who knew how to read a wiki on the same site he downloaded he CP from) who got tired of CP and searched for the real thing, as most of them do.
feral negros Now, now, now, I wonder who could want such a thing?
So you're a racist pig who gets off on fondling little kids. You should be thankful to the system you hate because protective custody in prison will be a fate much more kind than you would have otherwise received.
Don't kid yourself: autists are retards. They aren't Archimedes, they are Chris-chan. They don't do anything brilliant, they sit on their ass and spend their parent's money on video games and toys.
Literally everyone who has ever accomplished anything important, from Newton to Zuckerberg, was on the spectrum. Don't hate cause you ain't.
If 95% of people were bipolar, that would be the normal condition, and the remaining 5% would be classified as non-responsive.
Then just allow bipolar people to run their own country and the problem is solved. They will be considered normal in their state.
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Anonymous2016-10-07 6:49
>>49 That's a pretty good idea actually. If we have a one world government, I'd like the territories to be segregated by mental phenotype clusters. You could evaluate everyone's disorders and split the world up according to the minimum spanning trees.
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Anonymous2016-10-07 7:27
>>48 Nonsex isn't a word. I think they meant "non-sex offenders", meaning they weren't sex offenders, but may or may not be other kinds of "offender".
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Anonymous2016-10-07 13:54
>>1 The whole child abuse angle is a red herring. The real benefit of making CP illegal is that you can put data on an undesirable's drive and he will be guilty of a major crime. Just look at how everybody turns into an emotional screaming retard as soon as you bring up the topic and you'll understand that there is no easier human disposal method than branding him as a pedo.
Putin is an actual pedo, having over 9000 photos kissing underage boys, yet nobody cares.
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Anonymous2016-10-07 23:08
I think we should evaluate everybody according to the 16 personality types, and create 16 countries out of the Earth (one for each type).
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Anonymous2016-10-08 15:50
Okay, I think I have a solution. When the technology improves enough, we can go or separate ways for good. Pedos can have the moon, the gays can have Mars, and the rest of us get Earth. Everyone can be happy. Any objections?
>>67 Um, how can somebody not in the process of raping children be called a pedophile? Building and staffing a hotel leaves little time for rape of anybody, so wtf are you thinking......?
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Anonymous2016-10-12 20:41
>>67 What if it is a haunted hotel and it uses ghastly apparitions to luring children inside and molest them?
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Anonymous2016-10-12 22:49
Is Yuyuko a ghastly apparition? More importantly, is Keine a cow?
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Anonymous2016-10-12 23:50
>>70 Yes and Yes. Both are pedophiles, too. Keine the Kike uses her position at the school to run Gensokyo's sixth largest CP ring, and then wipes the history of the even from her pupils' minds. Yuyuko subjects poor Youmu to the most horrific debasement imaginable.
>>78 You strongly implied a command that I should navigate to that website and learn English. That counts as telling me to do something, jerk.
>>77 I'll bully whoever I please, however I please! Just watch me: hey Pedo-kun, didn't you know that only losers are into kids? What the fuck is up with that? You some kind of loser, dude? Wow, why can't you just be normal and not be a loser any more?
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Anonymous2017-10-01 9:53
Do you think child porn will be decriminalized during Trump's presidency?
>>82 He's turning out to be a Hillary Clinton-lite. Also, Ivanka is pushing progressive-esque ideas in the White House.
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Anonymous2017-10-03 6:21
If Japanese censorship and laws and its affect on their porn industry has taught us anything, it's that more censorship, counter intuitively, is incredibly conducive to innovation in that respective field. Anti-pedo lobbyists don't want to ban loli, because doing so when take away their reactionary power. If they get the legislature they want, they have nothing to protest against.
>>85 No idea, but they aren't really enforcing them either. Look up "Ura bukkake" uncensored porn is growing big there.
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Anonymous2017-10-03 15:17
>>86 Pretty sure they are. Censoring them isn't exactly effort free.
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Anonymous2017-10-03 15:54
>>87 If that's the case, then it's a endless and pointless game of whack-a-mole. I've seen more uncensored Japanese porn in the past two years than I ever saw on the Web.
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Anonymous2017-10-03 16:18
>>82 Neither is Shinzō Abe, doesn't stop Japan from being quite sexually perverted,though.
>>91 Both countries rival each other in degeneracy.
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Anonymous2017-10-03 18:26
>>92 Seems like degeneracy has spread worldwide thanks to the Internet, even into countries that aren't all that degenerate like the V4, Belarus and Ukraine.
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Anonymous2017-10-03 23:59
You know, we talk about child porn a lot on here and how people want to stop the production of it, but how much child porn is actually in circulation, really? I feel like it's the same 50 videos being republished over and over again with no progression. Although that's probably just because all the publishers are honey pots.
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Anonymous2017-10-04 2:26
I saw plenty when I used to browse Tor a lot years back, always saw fresh material, might be different now I guess. There's a push now in the mainstream for pedophilia to be accepted as just another normal sexual orientation and I could see at least possession of child pornography becoming decriminalized in the next five to ten years in various countries if present trends continue. Already you have underage girls 8-11 years old twerking and shaking ass on YouTube and they're quite popular and more often than not receive positive than negative feedback.
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Anonymous2017-10-04 19:02
That's a really optimistic outlook. And how do you know that the legalization of pedophilia isn't just going to foster much stronger reactionary action among the majority of people that wouldn't tolerate that?
And how do you know that the legalization of pedophilia isn't just going to foster much stronger reactionary action among the majority of people that wouldn't tolerate that?
There were strong reactionary action against homoqueer marriage in the USA and France, yet both countries legalized homoqueer marriage anyway. See California's Proposition 8 referendum in 2008, for example. The majority voted in favor of recognizing that marriage is between a man and a woman in the state of California and the California Supreme Court even ruled in their favor, but when the Federal courts intervened, they invoked "muh Fourteenth Amendment" and struck it down. That eventually paved the way for national recognition of homoqueer marriage.
Same with France, there were huge protests against homoqueer marriage in France, but former president François Hollande went ahead with it anyway. So it doesn't matter. Same thing will happen in the area of pedophilia, child-adult relationships and child pornography. Who knows, it might take longer than I predict, it might be sooner, but it's definitely down the pike at some point in the future.
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Anonymous2017-10-05 6:04
How do we expedite the process of legalizing pedophilia and buttsecks with 3d lolis?
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Anonymous2017-10-05 6:16
>>95 I don't really think that the flagrant sexualization of children in the mainstream is really representative of the mainstream attitude towards pedophilia. Not just for the obvious fact that media from Hollywood is so much more liberal than the rest of America. Because you see the superficial intimations of pedophilia in so much of the United States, especially in the Bible belt, where people watch the Superbowl (and those child cheerleaders, thereby) and they have child beauty pagents and all sorts of overtly pedophilic stuff. The Bible belt, in addition to being the most religious part of America, is the biggest consumer of regular porn and also the biggest proliferator of child porn. I don't think that's any big sercret, really, but why is that?
The point made in >>84 I think sums it up. For the same reason that a father can lovingly, innocently caress his child or whatever and not seem like a creep, it's because it's far more established in the South than in the North that pedophilia is a bad thing, and should be chastised. When a mother bathes her child it's just a given that she doesn't think of her children in a sexual nature. When people watch children twerk on TV, it's built on the premise that people don't percieve anything inherently sexual in children.
I don't really think that the flagrant sexualization of children in the mainstream is really representative of the mainstream attitude towards pedophilia.
Neither was the case with gay marriage as I mentioned previously in >>97
The Bible belt, in addition to being the most religious part of America, is the biggest consumer of regular porn and also the biggest proliferator of child porn. I don't think that's any big sercret, really, but why is that?
Christian sexual morality combined with a "mainstream" culture of gaudy, hypersexual, degenerate, anything goes entertainment/media/academia that "challenges" modest Christian behavior as being oppressive and while people might reject such things outright, they will sometimes internalize such things unconsciously. But this is a case of a (((certain people))) playing both sides (that they created in the first place to begin with) against the middle to achieve the objective that they originally intended in the first place. I have to also object the increasingly outdated notion that the Southeastern United States is the most degenerate, I would say where things stand, the entire nation is headed towards unbridled degeneracy in some cases far more and widespread than the architects of the Weimar Republic could have ever dreamed.
I will say, though, that suppressing sexual desire helps one to improve one's own internal discipline, but this shouldn't be done on the premise that if you have sexual urges that you will automatically go to hell because you acted on them (like for example, because you masturbated to porn).
Sixty percent of black girls have experienced sexual abuse at the hands of black men before reaching the age of 18, according to an ongoing study conducted by Black Women’s Blueprint.
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1 in 4 black girls will be sexually abused before the age of 18. (Stone, R.D., No Secrets, No Lies: How Black Families Can Heal from Sexual Abuse, 2004)
Thirty percent of black women with documented histories of childhood sexual abuse were sexually assaulted in adulthood. (Siegel & Williams, Risk Factors for Sexual Victimization of Women, Violence Against Women 9, 2003)
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Anonymous2017-10-06 12:15
>>101-103 As >>104 explained, there are a lot of pedophiles regardless of race. As such, there are a lot of instances of domestic, sexual abuse occurring in all kinds of households. It's simply that domestic abuse is generally more expected of in minorities and thus a certain kind of incestuous pedophilia, thereby. Although I do wonder if there are more instances of non-familial pedophilic assault among WASP's than other races of men. Really, I think that it's probably more of an issue of the mainstream media's tendency to single out cases of pedophilia among white men, as though instances of white pedophilia were anomalous relative to other races. It says a lot about the media moreso than the communities themselves that they weren't even astonished enough by pedophilia in other races to really report on it, historically. Peter Sotos had a zine I read growing up that was really fascinating. But I think his audio records are really the most insightful. You should listen to them. They're really good. It may seem like it focuses on white people a lot, but keep in mind that Sotos is an American. And in the context of that, there's actually a pretty apt mix of different races of girls/boys (but mostly girls) and their reports on being raped as well as a lot of other good tidbits.
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Anonymous2017-10-06 15:17
>>101 More likely Jews (both "religious" and secular) are to be pedos.
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Anonymous2017-10-08 21:27
>>23 Japan isn't really all that "progressive," but it's much more functional than any Western nation today because of its ethnic and racial homogeneity. With ethnic and racial diversity, you get Brazil: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=kXJkQ6N9eds
>>107 Yeah, of all the far East nations, Japan is easily the least progressive of them all, socially, at least. Only there do you see women walking around bow legged. In contrast South Corea is a feminist haven and all the bureaucratic idiosyncrasies that come with. Taiwan is a good compromise, but it's basically the Italy of the Eastern world; e.g. everyone there is a lazy fuck, and they're only getting lazier. I visited my family in Taiwan, recently, and I saw two girls walking around in frilly pink dresses with corsets, wasn't even in Taipei. Call it Japan lite with a hardy splash of gookdom.