VS Code is BASED

inb4 hurr durr vim and emacs are better
NO.

- vs code is intuitive
- easy to use
- literally a tool for GODS
- you actually focus on programming instead of spending hours trying to customize your shit
- easily and truly customizable
- modern
- foss
- if you care too much about privacy, just download the vs codium fork

inb4 hurr durr electron
VS code only uses 100 MB, that's nothing, and if you don't like that go back to the 80s and tell someone who cares.

also Atom, emacs and vim are SHIT.

100 MB

That's like what? Every NES rom? Ya, I think I can put my finite disk space to better use.

Mousepad
- is intuitive
- easy to use
- literally a tool for GODS
- you actually focus on programming instead of spending hours trying to customize your shit
- easily and truly customizable
- modern
- foss
- if you care too much about privacy, just download tarball

Based. Coincidentally I tried it yesterday for the first time after the atom thread. Features like the rename variable functionality are implemented which I've always missed outside of visual studio. There's an intelligent design of the user interface, it's responsive, extensible and the keybinds are sensible. This is solid, high quality software.

>>2
True. Shit scripting languages, complicated, badly thought out, not polished. Typescript is bad as well though. They should've used js: industry standard. They just couldn't keep themselves from sneaking m$ tek in.

>>3
100MB is absolutely acceptable for the functionality. A neat 1tb samsung nvme ssd is like 200$. Using 1/10000 of your space for a tool you use 1/2 of your day is a good investement.

>>4
This seems rather primitive. I searched it but couldn't find a project site nor a picture which was younger than 4 years. The only thing I found was some guy on r***t crying that he lost hours of work because the smoothbrains that write linux software are too shortsighted to imagine a crash.

>>5

100MB is absolutely acceptable for the functionality.

By what criterion? You're not just making arbitrary statements are you?

A neat 1tb samsung nvme ssd is like 200$.

200 American dollars is more than a years salary in some countries.

>>6
By criterion of space required to space avaiable to usage, you fucking retard, didn't you read my post?

Who gives a shit about some countries. 3rd world programmers make like 10x what they used to 20 years ago anyways.

Do you want to butt into every programming discussion and talk about the 3rd world? Yeah well ai is interesting but niggers can't run it on the androids we gave them so stop talking about it.

space required to space avaiable to usage

Elaborate your equation.

Who gives a shit about some countries. 3rd world programmers make like 10x what they used to 20 years ago anyways.

Statistically speaking you should since they outnumber you. Also not everyone intends to monetarily profit from their coding, 10*0 is 0.

Do you want to butt into every programming discussion and talk about the 3rd world?

Do you only care about oligarchs?

>>5
Use the git master, its only a month old.
https://github.com/codebrainz/mousepad

* https://git.xfce.org/apps/mousepad

A neat 1tb samsung nvme ssd is like 200$.

I would rather spend that money on something actually useful.

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>>8

Elaborate your equation.

Investing a very tiny part of your storage space for the main program you run is a good investment. This is not a hard concept. I'm pretty sure you're prentending to be retarded and purposfully misundersand my answer.

they outnumber you

I don't care. I also don't really care about cockroaches. Maybe if they impact the ecosystem enough and something on a big scale happens it'll spark an interest. If tribe leader mbeke mistreats his 15 wifes I don't care. They're not white, they're not my countrymen. If he leads an inquisition and I don't get to eat bananas anymore I'll care. It's highly impractical to care about anything in the world. It's also highly ineffective. Focus on your country, find people that want to be saved and make an impact.

everyone intends to monetarily profit

Then what do you optimize for? Github stars? Respect from a mailing list or message board? I optimize for impact and a good way to measure that is money. Another benefit is that me and my family leave a happy live and have an extra ounce of freedom which money provides.

Do you only care about oligarchs?

I care more about an oligarch than about a mason because the oligarch influences more people, entire countries even. My end goal is to help the proletariat but the best way to do that sometimes happens to be to work with oligarchs. I recommend you measure your impact and try different approaches. You'll find writing a cli tool doesn't have a big impact on your local baker.

>>9
I talked about a screenshot, not about the latest release from the project. Reading comprehension.

>>11
There's nothing useful you can buy for 200$. A fast storage is one of the best investments you can make. You're probably not a programmer otherwise you'd know the power of data.

>>12
What use is a half built entry level pc? Is a Phantom Gaming D Video Card a better investment than my state of the art ssd?

Investing a very tiny part of your storage space for the main program you run is a good investment

I think in absolute terms not relative.

Focus on your country, find people that want to be saved and make an impact.

You can't save them when they're already farther down the wrong road.

Then what do you optimize for?

Recreational programing means you can optimize for just what you own and not have to worry about anything else.

the oligarch influences more people, entire countries even

Ya and that's a bad thing.

You're probably not a programmer otherwise you'd know the power of data.

You and your ilk can't handle the great responsibility that comes with that power. The rapid growth of storage capacity is demonstrably harmful.

>>14

I think in absolute terms not relative.

Why would you do that? This cripples your design tools. If you look at it relatively you can precalculate stuff and trade space for speed, for example.

You can't save them when they're already farther down the wrong road

Not in my experience. You're part of the reason why it's going down. You're probably smart enough to lead but don't. Pick your battles of course, be smart about it.

Recreational programing means you can optimize for just what you own and not have to worry about anything else.

I don't care about my computer: If it's slow I change it if it breaks I change it. Only the data on it interests me. It's a tool to work the data as efficiently as possible. If it's dull I sharp it.

oligarch influence bad

There must be smart people leading. 90% of humans are very stupid. Oligarchs aren't optimal but they're already in power and tend to be above average intelligence so you can focus on being productive. If you want to establish a new leader you're going to spend all your time playing politics and none of it actually changing the world.

You and your ilk can't handle the great responsibility

Do give me some examples. As I see it it's still a positive sum game.

The rapid growth of storage capacity is demonstrably harmful

Expand. With more data we deepen our understanding. Why would that be bad?

>>15
dumb obese relativistic zoomie

100MB

Idiots using shitware to make shitware.

go back to the 80s gramps

>>16
I'm actually really lean. My body, soul and possesions are lean. I could move all my stuff in half a day. I'm not going to because my soil is the only soil I care about.

>>17
You're right. It's ugly. 100MB is not appropiate. But it's still solid software. It's the best there is. The smartest people are not working on goddam text editors, their just a means to an end. The crutches they offer mostly help noobs. Also they've traded space for abstractions. Which was a good move. EVERYONE knows how to make a websight. Now kids can innovate without having to learn some shit with no real life benefit. I wouldn't hire a vimscript Xpert. Now someone who made a clean vscode plugin certainly can do a clean websight.

>>18
We don't have to abandon the pursuit of beauty. The optimal text editor is < 100KB.

>>19

The optimal text editor is < 100KB.

The irony of that ``eight extra KILOBYTES'' kopipe is that the GNU project has managed to inflate ed to almost 52 kilobytes. Hell, ex is 2.4 MB on most of the systems I'm expected to use, but that's because it's provided by vim lying.

>>20
Using vim as ex/vi is smart tho. Nobody wants to waste time maintaining outdated technology. Bram takes one for the team. Also one codebase: all eyes on the same ex code, no redundancy. Every ex works the same and has the full featureset, because it is the same code. This is how it should be done. It's a sign of incompetence if a distro shipps more than one vi clone.

>>21
ex should be a separate binary that vi(m) calls, like it used to be, not something that vim pretends to be so everything can be done in the same monolith.

I have been using Emacs for years. I'm afraid I'm switching to VS Code.

At this point all I do is try to make Emacs more like VS Code. I keep adding LSP plugins and other garbage that barely works and constantly crashes. The only reason I kept using Emacs as much was because it can run in a terminal. But I can always just VNC if I need to. Emacs (and vim) seems anachronistic at this point.

>>23
vim is handy when a relatively lightweight editor is needed. I'm not sure why anyone would still use emacs though.

I use Emacs because of EXWM. I honestly, genuinely hate Elisp, but I literally can't use another WM, because Emacs' window management and buffer management is too good. Also, stuff like calc is useful for me, because I don't like to use the Internet when I don't have to, so it lets me do conversions and stuff pretty quickly.

I just discovered a function called morse-region, right when I had to translate some morse code. Emacs is also useful in that it has so much specific stuff you can invoke in an instant, and Elisp makes it so that their purpose and usage is immediately apparent.

Emacs is like this biomorphic desktop environment whose tendrils grow around me and slowly seep into me orifices, and Elisp is like a really efficient graphical toolkit.

It's philosophically disingenuous to call Emacs a text editor, because everything is text. It's like constantly trying to acknowledge the air around you. Every keypress is technically its own function, because text is the lifeblood of Emacs. There's really only one program I think could be considered a valid text editor, and that's ed. Everything else is a philosophical err perverted by original sin. If there were no Emacs, I would go back to ed, not some bloated garbage like vi.